Dude, you and I went back and forth about this issue in this thread months ago, you don't remember? The issue is if you use any scene to change the temp, as in I'm leaving or I'm home, the schedule you set in ecobee won't resume unless you give another Siri command. Everything you and I went back and forth is in the above thread.
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Dude, you and I went back and forth about this issue in this thread months ago, you don't remember? The issue is if you use any scene to change the temp, as in I'm leaving or I'm home, the schedule you set in ecobee won't resume unless you give another Siri command. Everything you and I went back and forth is in the above thread.
Oh okay it sounded like you were talking about something else. I didn't realize what you meant sorry. Yes I do definitely remember THAT conversation. I thought you were talking about a bug.
Based on what I read here and elsewhere on other sites this isn't a "bug" -/ it is surely a design "flaw" but what you/I want the system to do doesn't match what other people want. Most people if they set it to home or away using a HomeKit scene want those settings retained until they manually change it. You & I want the schedule to supersede instead. From my findings, sadly you/I are in the minority.
I've not seen any changes that would improve this for us. Sadly because that's not what most folks want we are screwed. But what you could do is create a trigger that is time based to run the "resume schedule" scene. That is one solution. Not a good answer but that is one I found. Instead I've just created my own scenes that don't include thermostat settings. and at this point I don't use HomeKit to control my thermostat anyhow since my schedule is pretty constant.
Sorry for the confusion!!
Based on what I read here and elsewhere on other sites this isn't a "bug" -/ it is surely a design "flaw" but what you/I want the system to do doesn't match what other people want. Most people if they set it to home or away using a HomeKit scene want those settings retained until they manually change it. You & I want the schedule to supersede instead. From my findings, sadly you/I are in the minority.
I've not seen any changes that would improve this for us. Sadly because that's not what most folks want we are screwed. But what you could do is create a trigger that is time based to run the "resume schedule" scene. That is one solution. Not a good answer but that is one I found. Instead I've just created my own scenes that don't include thermostat settings. and at this point I don't use HomeKit to control my thermostat anyhow since my schedule is pretty constant.
Sorry for the confusion!!
I guess you don't remember I tried this, created triggers with Home but those did not supersed the ecobee setting of it maintaining the HK scene last set, it would maintain that before you said another HK scene change, which annoyed us. There should be a choice to allow you to choose between waiting for Siri or allow the schedule to be resumed.
Sorry I admit that I didn't recall you tried that specifically. I never got that deep into testing it myself. For me I so rarely change the temp or whatever on my thermostat. The exception is a snow day for my kid and my wife usually stays home and prefers wall control versus phone app. So it was moot.
That sucks!! Now have you re tried it with latest iOS updates? I had to completely reset my HomeKit a few weeks ago because the Home app let me create triggers that locked me out of my homes entirely. It was annoying and not fixable. And I waited too long to downgrade. HomeKit is on my **** list lately LOL
Sorry you've had bad results there. If you want me to test anything specifically I'm happy to be a "second test site" for you. Sounds like you've reached more advanced testing than even I have!
Happened to me Jan 2. I went and bought and ecobee 3 that day and have no regrets.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/fashion/nest-thermostat-glitch-battery-dies-software-freeze.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/fashion/nest-thermostat-glitch-battery-dies-software-freeze.html
That's horrible. I actually had the best before selling it on eBay to buy the ecobee because of the HomeKit compatibility and extra sensor. The ecobee won't lose battery as it plugs directly into the furnace power source, which I guess is good. But if you lose power to the house, I wonder how long the battery lasts. I guess that's why it's good to keep he old thermostat handy. The truth is, any of these non-mechanical thermostats are prone to software bugs that could make them not work. I mean even the lcd Honeywell ones could go haywire, though less likely. That's the kind of situation nest could have had a class action law suit, if babies were to pass away from the super cold like we had in the Midwest last week. I am happy yours is fine.
My Neat did use the C wire so this was a bug.
The ecobee is supposed to store it's settings during a power failure but won't be operational until power comes back of course.
The C wire is something your hvac system must have meaning the nest doesn't require it or push you to supply it. The ecobee comes with an extra appendage that allows you to supply the c wire, so it's a little more concerned with the power though requires a little more work, though it doesn't help when you lose power.
I was lucky to have extra unused wires through my walls that I was able to connect to the hvac and ecobee so I didn't even need to use the appendage.
The Nest is supposed to use the c wire if available. Otherwise it steals power from the furnace or AC. When not able to it uses its battery. Ecobee actually has article stating why stealing power is a bad idea.
https://www.ecobee.com/2014/01/the-problem-with-power-stealing/
Anyways since my Nest had the c wire it obvious was a serious bug. Their solution is to unplug it and let charge for hours using micro USB even though I have the c wire hooked up. Considering it was -25C at time do I really wanna mess around and trust this thing now?!? Good thing I was not away on vacation.
Also I don't see why one would need to run thermostat during a power outage anyways so this advantage of a nest is pointless. Ecobee keeps its settings during a power failure.
Incase you never figure out how to make it work.....I thought this might help you.
To me, the thermostat only has one flaw which is now easily overcome using Apple HomeKit. I wanted a thermostat the allowed me to set a custom schedule, would use motion sensing to alter that schedule should it detect that I am at home or away, and then use Siri to override that schedule at any time to adjust the temperature. It does all of these things with only one flaw. If you use Siri to adjust the temperature, the thermostat will permanently use the temperature you set using Siri (or any other API like Amazon Ecco) and will never return to the programmed thermostat schedule (This is called a "Hold"). What I want is for the thermostat to return to its schedule at the next scheduled event. The way to make this happen is to use Apple HomeKit. After you are done setting up a schedule via the Ecobee app (or the thermostat itself), download a Homekit compatible app to your iPhone (I used iDevices Connected). In the iDevices Connected app you will see a HomeKit scene called "Resume Schedule." All you have to do is set a Homekit Trigger to kick off the "Resume Schedule" scene at the same time your thermostat changes its schedule. For example, if you have your thermostat set to change to 70 degrees at 8am every morning, you also need to set the trigger for the "Resume Schedule" scene to go off at 8am. This will ensure that the thermostat's schedule resumes at 8am even if you used Siri to make an adjustment to the temperature prior to that 8am scheduled event.