I usually find the enterprise drives are more.
For example, I can usually locate a Black 1TB for ~$100USD, while the RE3 1TB can be had for ~$160USD (last checked about a week ago). Free shipping can sweeten the deal a bit, as it all adds up.Especially when buying mulitple drives from multiple e-tailers to reduce getting all the drives from the same batch.
Great to see you here nanofrog!
I lurk as much as I post. Both the RE4 and RE4-GP are server drives (RE = RAID Edition, btw).
). A bunch of those can sound like a bee hive on meth. I'm the same way. It can be difficult to balance out the financial aspect though, especially as the quantity increases. Shipping can add fast, and eat a large chunk of the system budget by doing it. That's why I love free shipping.I do that too, trying to avoid getting drives from the same batch. I think I'm overly paranoid.
But there's not that many vendors that offer it with a competively priced drive price as well. Darn it anyway. I thought you were meaning in general where you're located. It's still a bit odd though, but sweet to be in your position ATM.That's right for WD drives <2TB.
Here in Europe the 2TB Black is indeed more expensive than the RE4.
Hence I would definitely by the RE. You get a better drive for less money.
Not really a tough choise.
I haven't checked the price difference where I live, but if they're the same drive it is definitely weird they are different prices. Actually, you're saying the RE4 is better but cheaperThat's right for WD drives <2TB.
Here in Europe the 2TB Black is indeed more expensive than the RE4.
Hence I would definitely by the RE. You get a better drive for less money.
Not really a tough choise.
nanofrog said:
As you're using a RAID card (Apple's pile of junk), you'd be far better off with the enterprise version (RE4), due to the recovery timing differences (TLER values differ between consumer and enterprise drives). Because of this, the consumer versions can be unstable (random drop outs, even when the drives are fine).Well, if the noise isn't too bad, it's now a choice between the 2tB Blacks and the 2TB RE4...
I'll go for the RE4's (yes, I got the apple raid card that came with the early 2009 Mac Pro. I don't know why it's not considered any good, but that's probably a whole other thread )Apple's card is:I'll go for the RE4's (yes, I got the apple raid card that came with the early 2009 Mac Pro. I don't know why it's not considered any good, but that's probably a whole other thread
Yes.
Funny you should say that about the battery. My Mac Pro is currently in its 72 hour recharge cycle after having the raid battery replaced due to charging 'irregularities'. I think half the cost of what apple charge is for the warranty...Apple's card is:
1. Slow
2. Only works with ONE OS
3. Problematic (battery issues)
4. Very expensive for a 4 port SAS card (should be around $400 for what you get)
For the same $$$ (or a bit less, depending on the exact model and where you get it from), you'd be able to get an 8 port SAS card, with a faster processor, and is capable of running mulitple OS's <drivers for Windows, Linux, and OS X in some cases>, as well as Boot capability in EFI or BIOS, though the ROM can only contain one of them.
Yes.
I don't buy Samsung any more. I got one of their fridges and it's hopelessSpacedust said:
. Plus, they admitted no contest to price fixing of DRAM (http://www.justice.gov/atr/public/press_releases/2005/212002.htm)No, it's just greed, as they're the only source for it, and the only product Apple will support in any fashion.
they weren't the only ones guilty of it though. Infineon and Hynix were also nailed under that investigation, though the fines weren't as large.I don't buy Samsung any more. I got one of their fridges and it's hopeless
Yes, I try to let my purchases reflect these things if I can, btu it's not always easy to keep track of it all
If you did, you'd have to quit buying electronics all together.Yes, I try to let my purchases reflect these things if I can, btu it's not always easy to keep track of it all
I've not done that myself, so gugucom and Tutor (a couple of others too) would be able to give you more specific advice than I can, especially about how to handle the fan connectors on the coolers and tightening proceedures they used.I've just discovered the thread about upgrading the CPU... to the 3.33GHz oh boy...! you're going to get sick of me nf!!
I'm wondering what Toshiba will drop next in the MBA line, as they're current line <300GB max atm>, is better for workstation use (formerly Fujitsu).Though I want those new 600GB 15k.7 Cheetahs
I guess it's only a matter of time before a 2.5 or even 3TB drive comes out. I'm only thinking of price drops as I need to get all 4 the same for my Raid 0 set up. 4x2TB RE4's aren't going to be cheap
I've filled the first 4 TB's quickly and easily, but another 4 would last me long a long time. Is there a typical update process for WD HDD's?Most usually manage to get thier new drives out in about a year (consumer units). Given the testing involved, the enterprise models could take longer.I guess it's only a matter of time before a 2.5 or even 3TB drive comes out. I'm only thinking of price drops as I need to get all 4 the same for my Raid 0 set up. 4x2TB RE4's aren't going to be cheap
No, none of the cards do. They're not made by drive manufacturers, and it has to be done manually. No software either, as the firmware revisions to any particular drive (especially enterprise) aren't publicly available.
Yes you can use them, as they are SATA drives. But they're not the fastest any longer though, and have had a long life at 4yrs. I'd think of them as a stop-gap/short term solution until you get something else.
It would only work under Windows on a Mac Pro, as there's no EFI to flash it with for OS X.
