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kona0197

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So I recently picked up a low milage 2018 Mac Mini. Currently has MacOS Sequoia 15.5 installed on it. The system is quite laggy, probably due to the 8GB of RAM. I am curious what version of MacOS would work better on the system. I know I can grab Ventura or Sonoma from the app store. Not sure where to get official earlier systems.

And how do you turn off the notifications to upgrade to the latest MacOS after installing an older version?
 
Leave it on Sequoia and put more RAM into it. My 2018 MacBook Pro is fine running Sequoia with 16Gb RAM.
 
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I sympathize with you on the upgrade not at this time, how ever the reason your system is "laggy" is due to the 8GB. Downgrading to an earlier ver., probably won't make your system any speedier. I'm not sure how involved the upgrade would be, but that maybe the only the option for less beachballs. Maybe check out iFixit just to see how involved an upgrade actually is.
 
When you say quite laggy, please provide a little more context. Is it lag in the graphics? Are you seeing lots of beach balls while waiting for things to happen?, etc.

Which processor does your Mac mini have?

What size SSD does it have, and how much free space is available?

Are you using the machine in the same state that it was in when the previous owner sold it to you?

Was the machine reset when you bought it so that it was like setting up a new machine out of the box?

8GB of ram should be plenty for the vast majority of users when using a machine with a modern ssd as long as it has ample room for swap. Unless you are doing some serious work in photo/video editing or using it as a gaming device, you are likely fine with the ram as is.

If your machine only has a 128GB ssd, I would recommend only having macOS and the apps stored on the internal ssd. Then I would attach an external ssd and use that to save my files. Those little ssds fill up quick and can bog down a machine when they do. With 256GB or larger, you can keep more files on the internal drive and back things up externally as needed.

As far as which version of macOS to use, I would use the newest version that supports the hardware. OS upgrades do not bog down machines with ssds like they did in the days of spinning hard drives. Unless the choice is driven by a piece of software requiring and older version of macOS or you prefer to stay a revision or two behind the latest available in hopes of greater stability, stick with the newest version for your machine.
 
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You're going to need 16gb of RAM.
No way around this.

You also need sufficient SSD space.
I'd suggest 512gb as the minimum for the latest versions of the OS.

As meson suggests above, if the internal SSD is small (256gb or 128gb), use it ONLY for the OS, applications, and your basic account.
Store your "large libraries" (such as music, pictures and movies) on an external USB3.1 gen2 SSD.
 
Old OS Versions from Apple: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102662

I think Big Sur was the last OS to really play nice with 8GB RAM, but that is old enough you will soon start running into software compatibility issues.

If you are trying to drive a 4K display that might be your second problem. The UHD 630 iGPU is rather underpowered for Ultra High Definition, especialy if forced to share 8GB RAM with the rest of the system.
 
Thanks for all the help. I tried MacOS, found it a bit too strange for my tastes. Since I have used Windows my whole life, I installed Windows 10 on the machine. I found a tutorial that showed me how to install Windows natively without Bootcamp. Windows is running just fine.
 
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Recently bought a lightly used 2018 Mac Mini. Gave macOS a solid try for about two weeks. Since I have been a lifelong Windows user I didn't really care for macOS very much so I followed an online tutorial and actually got Windows 11 installed and running stable on the Mac. So my question is simple. Am I really missing out on anything by using Windows instead of macOS?
 
I don't see how I'm missing out on joy. Windows runs all my games. MacOS does not.
 
What are you GAINING by using a Mac for your Windows computer? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The answers to both questions are very geared to individual wants & needs. My opinion doesn't really matter.
 
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I don't see how I'm missing out on joy. Windows runs all my games. MacOS does not.

I would say compatibility with older games is traditionally the best reason to prefer Windows to macOS (or OS X). And if you're familiar with Windows, you're familiar with Windows.
 
I would say compatibility with older games is traditionally the best reason to prefer Windows to macOS (or OS X). And if you're familiar with Windows, you're familiar with Windows.
That cuts both ways of course. I am very familiar with Windows which is why I use Macs at home.
 
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That cuts both ways of course. I am very familiar with Windows which is why I use Macs at home.

Oh, yes – that was a pluralistic gesture. A few years ago, I went to the same trouble of installing Windows on my own older Mac mini for the purpose of playing a compatible game and was convinced within a few hours that it wasn't worth existing with it.
 
on an Intel Mac, the best OS you can run is Catalina. 10.5. was the last OS shipped on all Intel Macs back in early 2020 before they went all in on M1 silicon Macs and designed OS 11 Big Sur which was optimised for it.
 
on an Intel Mac, the best OS you can run is Catalina. 10.5. was the last OS shipped on all Intel Macs back in early 2020 before they went all in on M1 silicon Macs and designed OS 11 Big Sur which was optimised for it.
Catalina has been out of support for a while now.
 
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on an Intel Mac, the best OS you can run is Catalina. 10.5. was the last OS shipped on all Intel Macs back in early 2020 before they went all in on M1 silicon Macs and designed OS 11 Big Sur which was optimised for it.
Catalina was a pile of junk that did nothing but burn out 32-bit support in preparation for the Apple Silicon transition. Also I’m still bitter that Apple shipped a Catalina firmware update for the 2018 mini that broke egpu support in Mojave.

If you can afford a bit of bloat (unnoticeable for anyone with quad+ cores and 16GB+ RAM) then Monterey was the last upgrade to include meaningful bug fixes, driver updates, and new features for Intel systems. That making Monterey the best OS for late Intel.

Honorable mention to Sonoma. It may lean Apple Silicon, but it still plays nice with Intel and still has security updates.
 
My hex-i7 2018 Mini shipped with Catalina and I used it for a number of years with no issues. Currently running Monterey now and honestly haven't notice any difference. Was planning to upgrade to Sequoia when I get the time, since it would give me the longest support. I have 64gb RAM, so not too worried about memory usage (although I often use it all between MacOS and a 32gb Windows VM).

Are there other reasons why Sequoia wouldn't play nice with a 2018 Mini? I have it on an m4 16/256 Mini and it runs fine (although I don't much care for the user interface "improvements").
 
My hex-i7 2018 Mini shipped with Catalina and I used it for a number of years with no issues. Currently running Monterey now and honestly haven't notice any difference. Was planning to upgrade to Sequoia when I get the time, since it would give me the longest support. I have 64gb RAM, so not too worried about memory usage (although I often use it all between MacOS and a 32gb Windows VM).

Are there other reasons why Sequoia wouldn't play nice with a 2018 Mini? I have it on an m4 16/256 Mini and it runs fine (although I don't much care for the user interface "improvements").
The only real weakness of the 2018 Mac mini was the lack of a decent GPU. Probably not a big issue with Sequoia but I would not bother trying to get Tahoe to run.
 
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The only real weakness of the 2018 Mac mini was the lack of a decent GPU. Probably not a big issue with Sequoia but I would not bother trying to get Tahoe to run.

Tahoe is officially not compatible with the Mac Mini 2018 anyway. I bet there will be an OCLP that makes it work but to your point Liquid Retina may run slow on it unless one has an eGPU.

By the way while the GPU in the 2018 Mac Mini wasn't great it still benchmarked faster than the GPU (Nvidia 9400M) in the Mac Mini 2009, etc which was more than fast enough for Aqua. I bet Apple could tweak Liquid Retina to run reasonably well on the Mac Mini 2018 but I bet they didn't.

Otherwise, I found both machines than fast enough for 2D, 2D-ish 3D, and basic 3D. Of course for Blender, gaming, etc in the Intel era, the AMD systems were more appropriate.
 
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