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Best Password manager?

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I have always used 1Password in the past but haven't bothered getting any of the upgrades in recent years so am still running version 3.

Since I have a brand new iMac I figure it is time to get a new updated version so wondering if they are still a good one, or is there another I should consider? Don't mind paying - ideally would like it to work on iPhone X too and sync easily between them all...

Thanks in advance
 
PokerGuy said:
I have always used 1Password in the past but haven't bothered getting any of the upgrades in recent years so am still running version 3.

Since I have a brand new iMac I figure it is time to get a new updated version so wondering if they are still a good one, or is there another I should consider? Don't mind paying - ideally would like it to work on iPhone X too and sync easily between them all...

Thanks in advance
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Roboform
 
Enpass. Has (almost) all the functionality of 1Password and runs on more platforms. The iMac version is free, and for iOS you pay only once (no subscription). I am using it for over a year now and it runs perfectly on my iPhone, iPad and iMac.
You can also set up your own sync server (which you can’t with 1Password as far as I know).
 
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lexvo said:
Enpass. Has (almost) all the functionality of 1Password and runs on more platforms. The iMac version is free, and for iOS you pay only once (no subscription). I am using it for over a year now and it runs perfectly on my iPhone, iPad and iMac.
You can also set up your own sync server (which you can’t with 1Password as far as I know).
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1Password offers a "pay once" (no subscription) version. It also allows you to sync via your WiFi, or you can use iCloud, Dropbox or their own server.

The bottom line is that most of these services offer the exact same features. For most, it comes down to price and user interface.
 
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The downside to all of these is that they're not well integrated into iOS. Some apps let you use 1Password, but it's awkward. And there's no easy way to retrieve your stored passwords from Safari.

I've been using 1Password for years and the sync works fine between devices -- but it's not something I'd recommend to my mom!
 
MacGizmo said:
It also allows you to sync via your WiFi, or you can use iCloud, Dropbox or their own server.
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Yes, Enpass has that too. But with Enpass I can also sync via my own server if I don’t want to use a cloud.

The bottom line is that most of these services offer the exact same features. For most, it comes down to price and user interface.
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True :)
 
lexvo said:
Yes, Enpass has that too. But with Enpass I can also sync via my own server if I don’t want to use a cloud.
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It's nice to see that they allow you to sync to your own server... but in my mind, that's nearly as insecure as using anyone else's server (such as Dropbox, iCloud, etc.) I'm no security expert, but syncing from one device DIRECTLY to another device over WiFi is infinitely more secure – as the only way to have a security breach is for someone to be standing within WiFi range, with your network already pre-hacked, at the exact moment the sync occurs between your two devices. That's what 1Password does.

I like the features Enpass offers... and I certainly like the price! But what I don't like is that it's a company operating out of India.
 
MacGizmo said:
It's nice to see that they allow you to sync to your own server... but in my mind, that's nearly as insecure as using anyone else's server (such as Dropbox, iCloud, etc.) I'm no security expert, but syncing from one device DIRECTLY to another device over WiFi is infinitely more secure – as the only way to have a security breach is for someone to be standing within WiFi range, with your network already pre-hacked, at the exact moment the sync occurs between your two devices. That's what 1Password does.

I like the features Enpass offers... and I certainly like the price! But what I don't like is that it's a company operating out of India.
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Yes, with my own server I feel I have a bit more control :)

From what I've seen from 1Password it is a great app. Like you said it comes down to personal preferences as the feature sets are for a large part equal.
 
I used RoboForm for a few years but it had a habit of not working after a macOS update for a few weeks until they caught up. Switched to 1Password and not had a problem yet.
 
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Sheet of paper next to computer OR text file with indescript name only you would recognize on external drive.
 
1Password is a superior password manager. Note that they do still sell the stand alone-version if you look for it on their website. The stand alone version does still support multiple options for local, cloud, or LAN sync of vaults. It is really unfortunate that 1Password is stearing in the direction of a cloud-only, subscription-only, and lately announced, browser-based future. These are three separate issues which many tech savvy users feel very strongly about.

I really hope that AgileBits realizes that its early, tech savvy customers are VERY important to it's continued success or failure. Tech professionals carefully evaluate the software that they use themselves and then commonly influence hundreds or thousands of other users in their recommendations of software. When a company slowly moves towards removing features that made the product desirable for those professionals (for example local vaults and the choice of cloud syncing options), then those users will begin evaluating new solutions that meet their needs -- and recommending those new products in place of the old ones. It doesn't matter how many times AgileBits responds that we should not worry about changest that have not occured yet, forking the product into now three products is not a good sign for the future of the stand-alone 1Password product that now gets treated as a second-class citizen. The stand-alone version is now being superceeded by a subscription/cloud vault version, and a new browser-based/cloud vault version.

For the time being, the 1Password stand-alone version is excellent on all platforms and I highly recommend it. I'll continue to recommend it even if it becomes subscription-based licensing only (I am very willing to pay for such a great product). However, I will drop it immediately if they remove Local valuts, LAN sync, DropBox sync, or iCloud sync. This flexability in where to store your vaults is critical to any good password manager. In addition, if 1Password ever becomes a browser-only product like Dashlane then I'm also gone. I gave Dashlane a serious try a few years back and it absolutely sucked compared to the native application performance and security provided by 1Password. Even the security experts at AgileBits must know that a browser-based version of 1Password is a recipie for disaster for their currently steller security reputation.

Come one AgileBits, continue to give tech professionals what we want in a password manager and we will stay with your product and continue to recommend it to others. If you insist in moving away from what professionals want, and instead cater only to the masses, then you will lose our long-standing support for your product.
 
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I used LastPass for a long time but ultimately moved over to the subscription "family plan" of 1Password. I do believe LastPass would technically do everything we want, but I just found the interface a bit clunky and less intuitive.

I'm not a huge fan of subscription-based apps in general, but part of the reason I got it was to get my fiancee into the habit of using a password manager and also being able to share some passwords with her. 1Password is excellent for this, and the interface is intuitive and friendly enough to get a novice to use it. We sync via iCloud and it seems to work quickly and reliably on Mac and iOS.
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if 1Password ever becomes a browser-only product like Dashlane then I'm also gone.
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+1 on that. I really prefer *real* apps on my Mac.
 
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IHelpId10t5 said:
1Password is a superior password manager. Note that they do still sell the stand alone-version if you look for it on their website. The stand alone version does still support multiple options for local, cloud, or LAN sync of vaults. It is really unfortunate that 1Password is stearing in the direction of a cloud-only, subscription-only, and lately announced, browser-based future. These are three separate issues which many tech savvy users feel very strongly about.

I really hope that AgileBits realizes that its early, tech savvy customers are VERY important to it's continued success or failure. Tech professionals carefully evaluate the software that they use themselves and then commonly influence hundreds or thousands of other users in their recommendations of software. When a company slowly moves towards removing features that made the product desirable for those professionals (for example local vaults and the choice of cloud syncing options), then those users will begin evaluating new solutions that meet their needs -- and recommending those new products in place of the old ones. It doesn't matter how many times AgileBits responds that we should not worry about changest that have not occured yet, forking the product into now three products is not a good sign for the future of the stand-alone 1Password product that now gets treated as a second-class citizen. The stand-alone version is now being superceeded by a subscription/cloud vault version, and a new browser-based/cloud vault version.

For the time being, the 1Password stand-alone version is excellent on all platforms and I highly recommend it. I'll continue to recommend it even if it becomes subscription-based licensing only (I am very willing to pay for such a great product). However, I will drop it immediately if they remove Local valuts, LAN sync, DropBox sync, or iCloud sync. This flexability in where to store your vaults is critical to any good password manager. In addition, if 1Password ever becomes a browser-only product like Dashlane then I'm also gone. I gave Dashlane a serious try a few years back and it absolutely sucked compared to the native application performance and security provided by 1Password. Even the security experts at AgileBits must know that a browser-based version of 1Password is a recipie for disaster for their currently steller security reputation.

Come one AgileBits, continue to give tech professionals what we want in a password manager and we will stay with your product and continue to recommend it to others. If you insist in moving away from what professionals want, and instead cater only to the masses, then you will lose our long-standing support for your product.
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This. This. 1000 times this.

1Password is one of my favorite Apps that I have used for years and recommended to hundreds (maybe even thousands) of people. But the direction they are moving in does not make me feel nearly as confident in my future with them as before. I know that Agilebits has a presence on this forum and I sincerely hope they read this.
 
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nagual said:
LastPass
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Biggest downside is after they were acquired the price went up and I feel like the actual application is getting worse. That said, it's still the most convenient password manager IMO. Works in all my browsers and the app on iOS is good.
 
1Password has a feature they call Watchtower that will alert you to vulnerabilities; duplicate passwords, weak passwords, but also if you have an account on a service that is know to have been hacked / have vulnerabilities.

A superb service that I wouldn't want to be without these days ...
 
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Sirolway said:
1Password has a feature they call Watchtower that will alert you to vulnerabilities; duplicate passwords, weak passwords, but also if you have an account on a service that is know to have been hacked / have vulnerabilities.

A superb service that I wouldn't want to be without these days ...
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Enpass has that too (except for the last one).
 
Ive used 1Password since first switching to Mac some 8 years ago and love it. My wife also uses it and it syncs beautifully between all our devices. My 2 children have also come of age where they now have devices and logins and I am thinking of switching to their Family Subscription plan but do have concerns over security of my vault being somewhere else.

I dread the day I hear that they have been compromised and I have 400 logins etc to change. Perhaps I am worrying about nothing?
 
I have used RoboForm for a few years but would not recommend it. I will not re-subscribe when my current paid subscription is complete. Roboform keeps wanting to update saved passwords. It seems to be more trouble then it is worth..
 
An early 1PassWord adopter and a very happy one. I'm currently on
1Password 6
Version 6.8.6 (686004).

I used it on iOS first and whinged and whined to them about having to pay full price again for a macOS licence and they cut me some discount - well-done guys and thanks again. Don't tell agilebits I told you!!

Remember it's not JUST for logon details, for example, I store credit card data and can quickly populate an online form with accurate details from 1PassWord.

The iOS version also uses its own internal browser for logons to save having to launch another app for sign-ins. I find that pretty handy.

I think it's great value and a great app. It'll take a lot to make me switch allegiances
 
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