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I started off by using 1password back in the day until Apple came out with their own. I was wondering if I should switch or is the Apple one good?

I also have PC that I use, so having the ability to be able to share passwords between both platforms would be great. With the built in password manager from Apple. I can only use it on Apple devices. What do you guys recommend? Looking for a password manager that I can trust won't secretly steal my data. I'm still kind of skeptical about password managers due to privacy concerns.
 
Keepass. Store a password encrypted database protected by an additional local keyfile anywhere and access it on any platform.
 
I think the Apple built-in one is fine for most people. I use 1Password for the multi-platform capabilities, password history, multiple vaults, WatchTower feature to find bad passwords, and the different templates for other things like serial codes, database logins, servers, credit cards, notes, etc. I almost didn't renew my subscription this year but after a day using another password manager, I decided the subscription cost wasn't that awful and renewed.

There are lots of Password managers out there and a good thread on them on Macrumors for people that wanted to move away from 1Password.
 
to me, passwords are critical to security so I don’t mind the subscription model as long as it is reasonable. A password mgr should be multi-platform, store secure notes/images and store payment cards. It should be integrated so I can auto fill the data into browsers and apps. I use Lastpass.
 
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Take a look at Enpass. (1) license has you covered for iOS, iPadOS, MacOS and Windows OS.

They have a lifetime purchase option on sale at $59.99.

You store the password vault (database file) locally or on remote/cloud storage. I don’t want a password manager in the hands of a service. I recommend purchasing direct, not in the App Store (IAP).

I was an early adopter, using it for years. OTP and audit features were added a year ago.

See enpass.io
 
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I use 1Password. The small monthly cost is more than worth it for me.
Some folks are not fans of subscriptions. But if you are a single license owner they give (or did when I switched) a discount for 3 years. So for the next three years my 1Password sub costs about $2.00 a month. They continually improve the product and issue reqular updates.
 
I've tried several but came back to 1Password. It's simply the one that offers the best experience for me. Second for me is Bitwarden, but it's a bit clunky in some areas in comparison to 1Password.
 
I am using Safe +, it's a full featured password manager that also handles photos (including text recognition), videos and documents. Locations based favourites (also shown in the widget) are also a nice feature!
 
I'm still using 1Password standalone (no subscription) in High Sierra and Mojave
Similarly, I use 1Password 7 on 2 iPhones, 2 iPads, 2 Windows PC’s, and my iMac just updated to Monterey. Works very well, all legitimately licensed, and no subscriptions. Will keep v7 as long as I can and then look at alternatives when 1Password wants me to go to v8 and beyond (the subscription versions).
 
Illiumsoft eWallet
Been using over 20 years.
works for free for a bit as a trial before app store, so I dont know current status.
Buy from app store and updates are transparent....but can also download mac version from their site to trial for free.

Has client for several platforms. Synchs across all platforms.
Synch is selectable location, and supports iCloud among others
also supports face iD and touch iD
file is 256bit AES encrypted I believe.
price is reasonable (one time fee), and paid upgrades have been like 3 in 20 years... regular updates no charge.
I tried moving to 1password a couple times cause it seems to be marketed better to mac community.
Guess its what you are used to, but I never got comfortable with 1password, and when they went subsctiption I felt it a big sellout to their customer base.
 
I'm still using 1Password standalone (no subscription) in High Sierra and Mojave

Are you using 1PW 7.x or 1PW 6.x or lower?

If 6.x or lower, you will not have an upgrade path to 7.x that doesn't force you to purchase a subscription. They turned off the servers that provision standalone licenses so you are stuck on 6.x if you want to keep a standalone vault on your Mac.

The problem there is that 1PW 6.x is an Intel binary, so if you upgrade to a Silicon Mac, you'll be on borrowed time for using that Intel binary, as it will then depend on Rosetta 2 support. When Apple drops Rosetta 2, those Intel binaries will no longer work.

That is my problem as well, as I'm on 1PW 6.8.9 on my Mac, using Sierra. I have since migrated over to Enpass, and am about to pull the trigger on a new Mac, as mine is almost 11 years old.

Similarly, I use 1Password 7 on 2 iPhones, 2 iPads, 2 Windows PC’s, and my iMac just updated to Monterey. Works very well, all legitimately licensed, and no subscriptions. Will keep v7 as long as I can and then look at alternatives when 1Password wants me to go to v8 and beyond (the subscription versions).

If you're on 1PW 7 on your Mac, you're in the sweet spot. My understanding is that 1PW 7 is either a universal binary, or has support for Silicon, so you will never have to upgrade from that, especially if you are on a licensed version with a standalone vault. It will work for you forever. Just be sure to keep the license key and installer available should you need to reinstall, and you're all set.

BL.
 
"Are you using 1PW 7.x or 1PW 6.x or lower? If 6.x or lower, you will not have an upgrade path to 7.x that doesn't force you to purchase a subscription. They turned off the servers that provision standalone licenses so you are stuck on 6.x if you want to keep a standalone vault on your Mac."

If I'm reading you right, this is wrong. I'm using 1Password 7.9.2, and I don't subscribe. I have been using 1Password since early versions and I have never subscribed. I'm speaking from experience, not from what I've read or what someone told me.

I was able to transfer my vault from this 2011 iMac to a new (used) 2015 Macbook Pro running Mojave without much trouble. It's never easy, but you know how that is. I had to go to the 1Password web site and found what I wanted.

Companies don’t matter to me. Products do. If a product magically becomes a service, it's no good to me. If a product no longer works, it's no good to me. What I want is very simple: a product that works and doesn't turn into a pumpkin when the clock strikes twelve. There may be a time when 1Password doesn't work for me. I will cross that bridge when I come to it. We've been conned into thinking we need "the latest and greatest." We don't. I continue to be astonished by what people will participate in. I for one would never put my passwords into "the cloud." That strkes me as utter foolishness. People on this forum have thought this subject through, but most people haven't. Too busy, I guess. I don't know.
 
"That is my problem as well, as I'm on 1PW 6.8.9 on my Mac, using Sierra. I have since migrated over to Enpass, and am about to pull the trigger on a new Mac, as mine is almost 11 years old."

I'm surprised you never upgraded to High Sierra. What kind of Mac are you planning to get?
 
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