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corywoolf

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My bro's 12" 867 Mhz PB is in need of a new disc drive and it could use a slight memory upgrade. Any Advice on what site to go to for this and which has the best deals.

I think he should get:

$180 1 GB RAM (i still don't think you can put a GB ram in this thing but OWC site said you could)
$200 100 GB 5400 RPM Hard-drive
$170 Dual layer dvd burner
$140 battery
$450 Dell 20" Widescreen LCD monitor

but he is only 19 and makes like $8 an hour and needs to pay rent, so realistically:

$70 512 MB RAM
$170 Dual Layer dvd burner


Would I get any discount if I let the place keep the 40 GB hard-drive and go for a 100 GB? Maybe like $30 off?

Any advice on monitors for real cheap would be good too. I hate to see him trying to edit in garageband on that 12" screen. His apartment isn't big, so it has to be an lcd. Sometimes I almost want to spend my own money on the PB because it has been without a working disc drive for over 1.5 years!!! It all started when about a month after we got 2 of them, some ditz spilled mountain dew on the keyboard at his party. He was dumb enough to leave it out, kinda his fault. So it cost us $1000 to get it fixed and about a month after it was fixed the disc drive stopped working, it would sometimes be detected and other times wouldn't. I had at least 3 discs get stuck in there thanks to my bros friends forgetting it was broken (not at the same time). I had to use the terminal to eject it and I had to enter the same command 30 times literally before it would finally eject it. I thought it could be a loose connection, but I would like to see him have a dvd burner in it anyways. It makes me sick to think my dad was dumb enough to pay for it to get repaired when I told him he might as well buy a new one and sell this one for parts. Now we could have bought a new one for the cost of how much trouble it has given us. And here I am working on a imac rev a g4 800 Mhz editing in fcp 3 with 256 MB of ram!!! I know I'm crazy, I have been doing it for over 3 years on it. Rendering will often take 3 days for a 10 minute video with lots of effects and keyframing. I know I could afford a mini now but I would rather stick with my old imac until either I can get a 2 Ghz G5 powermac or just wait until mactel has a good powermac (yeah right, maybe in 3 years).

Anyways, thanks for any advice, and I will reply within a few hours, I promise.
 

corywoolf

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looks like out of 33 views no one could think of a place to go to? Maybe I shouldn't rant so much? ;)
 

corywoolf

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thanks

thanks for the advice, either macsales.com or OWC, still can't decide.
 

corywoolf

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I am pretty sure I have made up my mind...

1 TWK125020001 Techworks 512MB PC2700 DDR-SO DIMM 333MHz 200 Pin for PowerBook G4 12", G4 15", & 17" Aluminum Models(All speeds); iMac G4/1GHz - 1.25GHz, iBook G4 Models. New with LifeTime Techworks Warranty.
$58.95

1 HIT13G1584 Bare 80GB Hitachi/IBM Travelstar 5K100 5400RPM 8MB Buffer ATA/6 9.5mmUltraSlim, New with 3yr Hitachi Warranty.
$158.99

1 OWCMPBG4SD8XDL OWC MercuryPBG4 SuperDrive Dual-Layer KIT for all PowerBook G4 'Ti' & 'AL' 12/15/17" Models that now have a CD-R/RW+DVD-Rom or other 'SuperDrive'! Burn DVDs up to 8X,DVD-Ram 3X, CDs up to 24X! 10pcs 8X DVD-R, Dantz Retrospect, NTI Dragonburn Included.
$169.95

1 NWTBAP12AL4800 Newer Technology NuPower AL12 4800mAh (53.3 Watt-Hour) Battery for all Powerbook G4 Aluminum 12" Models. New w/1yr NewerTech Warranty. *Up to 13.3% MORE Capacity vs. Apple's Battery!* $139.99

1 OWCLSPTIG412 Laptop Screen Protector for the PowerBook G4 12" 'Aluminum', iBook Dual USB (500-900MHz) and the iBook G4 12" (entire screen/palmrest area) - Top Quality, Glove Soft Leather keyboard cover W/ Klear Screen Polish - protects your laptop screen! $14.95 $14.95

Total:$542.83 :eek: :eek: :eek:

I know it will take some convincing to my bro. but I think he needs these upgrades, intead of going for the 100 GB HD, I went for the 80 GB 5400 RPM, Instead of 1 GB of RAM, I went for 512 MB

correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 867 Mhz 12" PB have 128 MB ram soldered, and another 128 MB ram replacable? So that would bring my bro's comp up to 768 MB ram?

I plan on putting tiger on it eventually, 786 MB is plenty of ram for web browsing, itunes, imovie, idvd, garageband right? I have used a 800 Mhz ibook with tiger and it had 786 MB ram, it seemed pretty good, didn't do ripple effect with widgets, but that is because the 32 MB vid card.


My final question, I plan on installing this all by myself!!! Where can I get the tools I will need, how much do they cost. Is there a website with instructions on hard-drives and disc drives?

If this is a big mistake please tell me right away. I don't think macsales does any instalation services. I didn't see the option, plus I want to save my self the $100 it would cost for them to install it all. This is a PB that has already voided its applecare, read above.
 

kant

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corywoolf said:
1 OWCMPBG4SD8XDL OWC MercuryPBG4 SuperDrive Dual-Layer KIT for all PowerBook G4 'Ti' & 'AL' 12/15/17" Models that now have a CD-R/RW+DVD-Rom or other 'SuperDrive'! Burn DVDs up to 8X,DVD-Ram 3X, CDs up to 24X! 10pcs 8X DVD-R, Dantz Retrospect, NTI Dragonburn Included.
$169.95

Go outboard. The 867mhz has a firewire port, right?


Burner: $38

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152039

External enclosure: $32

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817146174

Money saved to put towards the other upgrades: $112
 

corywoolf

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kant said:
Go outboard. The 867mhz has a firewire port, right?


Burner: $38

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152039

External enclosure: $32

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817146174

Money saved to put towards the other upgrades: $112

I don't like the idea of that, he wont want to have to lug that thing around if he goes to jam and burn a mix of it. Remember, he has no working drive at the moment. I already have an external usb 1.1 burner I bought for like $400 back a few years ago. But it is slow and huge, and I think he needs a dvd burner because if he plans on reselling it at one point, it will help out to have DL burning built in. I like the dell small business deal, 3.6 Ghz P4 decked out with a 24" monitor for only $1,100 !!!! I am thinking of buying the computer system and keeping the monitor and selling the computer.
Would a 32 MB graphics card drive a 24" monitor???
 

Chundles

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corywoolf said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 867 Mhz 12" PB have 128 MB ram soldered, and another 128 MB ram replacable? So that would bring my bro's comp up to 768 MB ram?

No, you will have 640MB as you will have to remove the replaceable 128MB module to put it the 512MB stick, leaving you with 128MB soldered on and 512MB in the spare slot.
 

Chundles

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corywoolf said:
Would a 32 MB graphics card drive a 24" monitor???

The graphics card on the 867MHz 12" PowerBook can support an external display with resolution of up to 1600x1200 via the VGA port.
 

corywoolf

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Chundles said:
The graphics card on the 867MHz 12" PowerBook can support an external display with resolution of up to 1600x1200 via the VGA port.

thanks, good to know, will 640 MB be enough for tiger?
 

ITASOR

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Chundles said:
The graphics card on the 867MHz 12" PowerBook can support an external display with resolution of up to 1600x1200 via the VGA port.

Why is this, when the iBook has a 32MB GFX Card too and can only do 1024x768? Isn't it the same thing?
 

solvs

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corywoolf said:
thanks for the advice, either macsales.com or OWC, still can't decide.
OWC is Macsales. They are good, but I've never had a problem with Newegg either. Just read the reviews. Or look for some good rebates on stuff with local places like Frys, CompUSA, Best Buy. I'd go with externals, as they are cheaper and faster, but understandable if he needs to use them while traveling.

Craig's List and eBay are great for cheap stuff, but no warranty of course.

ITASOR said:
Why is this, when the iBook has a 32MB GFX Card too and can only do 1024x768? Isn't it the same thing?
The iBook has a Radeon 9200, the 12" PowerBook has an GeForce-to-go 5200. But more importantly, the iBook can only officially mirror, and the LCD only goes up to 1024x768. With the hack, I believe it is higher.
 

corywoolf

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ITASOR said:
Why is this, when the iBook has a 32MB GFX Card too and can only do 1024x768? Isn't it the same thing?

no offense, but how can you be a demi-god without owning a mac on this site? Can anyone be a demi-god?
 
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