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MACis122

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Here's why, apple missed the mark when a new phone wasn't released in time for many people eligible coming from an iPhone 4, Many people anxious to upgrade and many who probably have some held off to see what the new iPhone had to offer. That time has come and many are 50/50 about it. In the past Apple had two new carriers introduce the iPhone bringing in new sales but now most people on sprints network aren't eligible and probably aren't willing to pay full retail. Many verizon customers aren't eligible as well so this will definitely cut into sells. Sells will be great but I don't think they will be as big of a gap as previous releases.
 
Here's why, apple missed the mark when a new phone wasn't released in time for many people eligible coming from an iPhone 4, Many people anxious to upgrade and many who probably have some held off to see what the new iPhone had to offer. That time has come and many are 50/50 about it. In the past Apple had two new carriers introduce the iPhone bringing in new sales but now most people on sprints network aren't eligible and probably aren't willing to pay full retail. Many verizon customers aren't eligible as well so this will definitely cut into sells. Sells will be great but I don't think they will be as big of a gap as previous releases.

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If they set sales records with the 4S then the 5 setting them is a no-brainer. Yes, Android competition is much stiffer these days but I don't have a doubt that this one is going to reset the records.
 
Here's why, apple missed the mark when a new phone wasn't released in time for many people eligible coming from an iPhone 4, Many people anxious to upgrade and many who probably have some held off to see what the new iPhone had to offer. That time has come and many are 50/50 about it. In the past Apple had two new carriers introduce the iPhone bringing in new sales but now most people on sprints network aren't eligible and probably aren't willing to pay full retail. Many verizon customers aren't eligible as well so this will definitely cut into sells. Sells will be great but I don't think they will be as big of a gap as previous releases.

Because you know all.
 
I think it will sell out extremely fast this year. Why? Because lots of people are still on the 3GS, 4, and most people didn't upgrade to the 4S last year. There will be LOTS of people upgrading and lots of new customers.
 
I'm not saying I know all I'm giving an opinion. Sprint users only had the 4S and I know a lot of people jumped on it because they wanted that phone and the unlimited plans that sprint offered
 
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It is a new apple product, and not just a product, an Iphone. They could have released an iphone "4s II" and the only difference is a different colored apple symbol on the back and it would smash records. I really hope you're right, because I want the 5 asap.
 
The biggest weakness in your argument is that most iPhone's are not bought in the U.S.A. Even if everything you said turns out to be correct, it's only one albeit big market.
 
Here's why, apple missed the mark when a new phone wasn't released in time for many people eligible coming from an iPhone 4, Many people anxious to upgrade and many who probably have some held off to see what the new iPhone had to offer. That time has come and many are 50/50 about it. In the past Apple had two new carriers introduce the iPhone bringing in new sales but now most people on sprints network aren't eligible and probably aren't willing to pay full retail. Many verizon customers aren't eligible as well so this will definitely cut into sells. Sells will be great but I don't think they will be as big of a gap as previous releases.

Cool story, bro
 
I think you will quickly be proven wrong. Here's why: inertia.

In order for current iPhone users to drop it @ upgrade time they have to have a reason -- either a better phone or an iPhone that totally jumps the shark. iPhone users over 2+ years of ownership have on avg 100 apps, some paid, some not. They aren't going to dump them on a whim. Also they know how to use an iPhone. Most consumers don't look forward to switching once they've learned a system (See: Windows).

Most adults don't get fire in their pants the very moment they are eligible for an upgrade. I'm very much a gadget geek and I held onto my iPhone 4 for 10 months longer than I had to b/c the iPhone 4S wasn't going to be a huge upgrade for me. The iPhone 5 is. If that's how I feel I have to think non-techs are even more excited about the iPhone 5.
 
Many apps that people get are free. Some developers will work with people who switch to a platform that there app is available for so that is a non issue. Some people are anxious to upgrade come time to do so and in the time between the upgrade and release many phones have been released. I'm not saying people aren't excited about the 5 but I can guarantee you that people have jumped ship due to the wait. Most adults if they see something they want they get it
 
I don't know anyone who has switch from iPhone to android. I know lots of former android owners that have switched to iPhone. I know 3 Andoid users that are preordering 5s tomorrow. None of my friends bought the 4s eventhough some were elligable for months. Also with AT&T and Verizon's crappy new plans you don't save much by using a dumb phone, so lots of former dumb phone users are going to be pushed into smart phones this quarter. People who are not tech savvy will go iPhone over android more often than not. All these things make me think apple will have a winner here. If you really don't think so you are free to short Apple stock as wallstreet has priced in the iPhone 5 setting records and anything less will disappoint them. I wouldn't put my money on that.
 
I don't know anyone who has switch from iPhone to android. I know lots of former android owners that have switched to iPhone. I know 3 Andoid users that are preordering 5s tomorrow. None of my friends bought the 4s eventhough some were elligable for months. Also with AT&T and Verizon's crappy new plans you don't save much by using a dumb phone, so lots of former dumb phone users are going to be pushed into smart phones this quarter. People who are not tech savvy will go iPhone over android more often than not. All these things make me think apple will have a winner here. If you really don't think so you are free to short Apple stock as wallstreet has priced in the iPhone 5 setting records and anything less will disappoint them. I wouldn't put my money on that.

Just as you know people making the switch from android to apple. I also know people switching from apple to android so that makes no sense. he say she say. being that there are no official numbers only time will tell
 
Just as you know people making the switch from android to apple. I also know people switching from apple to android so that makes no sense. he say she say. being that there are no official numbers only time will tell

Bump! ;)
 
Here's why, apple missed the mark when a new phone wasn't released in time for many people eligible coming from an iPhone 4, Many people anxious to upgrade and many who probably have some held off to see what the new iPhone had to offer. That time has come and many are 50/50 about it. In the past Apple had two new carriers introduce the iPhone bringing in new sales but now most people on sprints network aren't eligible and probably aren't willing to pay full retail. Many verizon customers aren't eligible as well so this will definitely cut into sells. Sells will be great but I don't think they will be as big of a gap as previous releases.

I'm not saying I know all I'm giving an opinion. Sprint users only had the 4S and I know a lot of people jumped on it because they wanted that phone and the unlimited plans that sprint offered

Just as you know people making the switch from android to apple. I also know people switching from apple to android so that makes no sense. he say she say. being that there are no official numbers only time will tell

this is fun. first, you use words like "many" and "most" coinciding with personal experience to apply it to an entire, studied, y-o-y consistent market, and try to state the opposite.

strike one.

then you say yourself that you're only giving an opinion, again using "a lot of people" and your experience as a credible source, and applying it to an entire market.

strike two.

you end it by saying that what you say is no better than what i say (essentially), and that since there aren't any official numbers, time will tell.

groundball to the second baseman and you're out at... whatever. the baseball analogy sucks, but your argument sucks worse. that's my point.
 
Yeah, you're right on the money with your pinpoint accurate projection. Apple totally missed the mark. It will be a white elephant. It's success will be greatly exaggerated.
Oh wait, it's the most successful launch in history and the cash registers are going cha-ching!!

Simply brilliant!
 
of course it will...if you don't own the new iPhone then you're not part of the cool group.
 
Here's why, apple missed the mark when a new phone wasn't released in time for many people eligible coming from an iPhone 4, Many people anxious to upgrade and many who probably have some held off to see what the new iPhone had to offer. That time has come and many are 50/50 about it. In the past Apple had two new carriers introduce the iPhone bringing in new sales but now most people on sprints network aren't eligible and probably aren't willing to pay full retail. Many verizon customers aren't eligible as well so this will definitely cut into sells. Sells will be great but I don't think they will be as big of a gap as previous releases.

Cool story bro.
 
Guys, after seconds of contemplation I believe I have finally discovered the equation capable of predicting iPhone launch sales...

s(X) = sales of iPhone X, where X is the year of release

So...

s(X) > s(X-1)
 
best selling iphone. Yes indeed the iphone 5 will be. Mark my words. Twice amount of preorders then last year, a million more. Expected 10 million sold before mon.
 
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