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iPhone 7/Plus Best thing for iPhone 7 owners is to wait for next year

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After realizing the XR is a first gen product (they will likely get the bezels thinner) and the XS as being a real underwhelming S year, I think it is best for 7 owners to just skip this year. The A12 is barely a step above an A11 (for real world use, not on a specs sheet) and the A11 is not a huge gain from the A10. So performance wise we are still very much aligned with the XS.

Next year will likely have a more refined design and the XR will be in its second generation so who knows what they may improve as users get more experience their first year (maybe bring back 3D Touch, increase PPI to Plus levels, reduce bezels and make them slimmer).
 
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Kendo said:
After realizing the XR is a first gen product (they will likely get the bezels thinner) and the XS as being a real underwhelming S year, I think it is best for 7 owners to just skip this year. The A12 is barely a step above an A11 (for real world use, not on a specs sheet) and the A11 is not a huge gain from the A10. So performance wise we are still very much aligned with the XS.

Next year will likely have a more refined design and the XR will be in its second generation so who knows what they may improve as users get more experience their first year (maybe bring back 3D Touch, increase PPI to Plus levels, reduce bezels and make them slimmer).
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I've been waiting for a design I like since after the iPhone 5.

5s - No black.
6 - Fugly camera bump and antenna lines
6s - Same as 6
7 - Antenna lines gone, but fugly camera bump got bigger
8 - Fugly camera bump
X - Fugly camera bump
Xs - Fugly camera bump
XR - Fugly camera bump

Are you saying that if I wait until next year the fugly camera bump will be refined out of the design?

'cause I stopped waiting for a new redesign once the iPhone 7 launched. It's obvious Apple considers that a design element.

BTW, I DO have an iPhone 6s+ and I had a 6+ before that. But not because I wanted them.
 
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Kendo said:
After realizing the XR is a first gen product (they will likely get the bezels thinner) and the XS as being a real underwhelming S year, I think it is best for 7 owners to just skip this year. The A12 is barely a step above an A11 (for real world use, not on a specs sheet) and the A11 is not a huge gain from the A10. So performance wise we are still very much aligned with the XS.

Next year will likely have a more refined design and the XR will be in its second generation so who knows what they may improve as users get more experience their first year (maybe bring back 3D Touch, increase PPI to Plus levels, reduce bezels and make them slimmer).
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You are wrong on the A10 to A11. That was like an “S” cycle processor upgrade. And we all know the S cycle processor upgrade are huge going from iPhone 7 A10 to A11 is a huge improvement.

Look at 3g to 3GS. 4 to 4s 5 to 5s and so on.

You are correct the A11 to A12 is a minor 15% bump in processor.

I’m not here to convince you to upgrade your iPhone 7. That’s a personal decision. It’s a 2 year old phone. And these days 2 year old iPhones are still very capable.

The common person regular upgrade cycle is likely 3 years these days anyways.

So just wait for the next iPhone if that’s what you want.
 
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I personally upgrade every design change. I am not a big "internal upgrade" kinda guy, its fast enough...it always has been. For me though, its a more aesthetic thing I want to change my phone every design change like I started with iphone 3gs then 4 then 5 then 6 then X. I skipped the whole 6s, 7, 8 designs because....they literally look identical to me.
 
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You are wrong on the A10 to A11. That was like an “S” cycle processor upgrade. And we all know the S cycle processor upgrade are huge going from iPhone 7 A10 to A11 is a huge improvement.

Look at 3g to 3GS. 4 to 4s 5 to 5s and so on.

You are correct the A11 to A12 is a minor 15% bump in processor.

I’m not here to convince you to upgrade your iPhone 7. That’s a personal decision. It’s a 2 year old phone. And these days 2 year old iPhones are still very capable.

The common person regular upgrade cycle is likely 3 years these days anyways.

So just wait for the next iPhone if that’s what you want.
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Hmm. Sure the multi core score on the a11 compared to the a10 is a pretty big jump but the single core score which handles most everyday apps isn’t much higher. And even less going from the a11 to the a12. I have the 7 and my wife has the 8+. I’ve tested them side by side opening apps and there’s is virtually no difference in speed opening up everyday apps. That can probably be said even for the 6S. No apps that I’m aware of even take advantage of that super high multithreaded score.

So what is it going to be used for? No one knows yet. Maybe it’s used for Face ID and some advanced AR games? Not sure. In the real world the processors starting with the A9 and up are so fast they haven’t had a chance to start to slow down because iOS just runs to good on them currently. Maybe in a couple years the A9 might start to show it’s age or even the A10.

But right now the A10 is still a “rocket ship” of a processor as Phil Schiller described it in the keynote for the 7. Every year they are boosting it a little less and less because it doesn’t need to be faster for the software we have. I’m curious to see how much faster the A13 is next year.
 
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I've been wanting to upgrade for a while. When my father's 6+ crashed a few days ago from a logic board failure, that gave me a reason. He's getting my red iphone 7+, and I'm moving on up to the XR.

But as it is an S year, I decided against the XS and went with the XR. It's likely I'll want to upgrade next year if there's a major change. (That's my thought process, anyway.)

I'm looking forward to my XR!
 
to the X was a good jump from a 6 but I would agree to wait until the next cycle. maybe they will have landscape mode introduced to face id by then. It is mainly the only thing about the Xthat annoys the hell out of me.
 
7 is 2 years old, agree, waiting. Bring me a 5” XR, 5” X, something. No phablets. Phablet - no sale!
 
i honestly don't think there will be a "gotta have it" iPhone for another two years at least - regardless of what phone someone is currently using right now.
Heck, I've got a 6+ and still don't see anything in the current phones worth buying.
 
I’m on a 7 waiting for Pro Motion and a smaller notch possibly next year. That’s my feeling for next year. Maybe even a 3rd camera. What else could there be?
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I moved to the Xs from a i7... an awesome move in the right direction, couldn’t be happier.

Adam.
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That’s great! I have 3 kids and a limited income. I’d do it if I could but I want to get the most bang for my buck and I’m still getting plenty of bang for my buck with my launch 128GB JB 7 with a new battery.
 
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I’m on a 7 waiting for Pro Motion and a smaller notch possibly next year. That’s my feeling for next year. Maybe even a 3rd camera. What else could there be?
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That’s great! I have 3 kids and a limited income. I’d do it if I could but I want to get the most bang for my buck and I’m still getting plenty of bang for my buck with my launch 7 with a new battery.
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If you are happy with your 7 then yes keep hold of it, it is an awesome phone regardless of the new ones being out.

Adam.
 
Best thing when it comes to things of this nature is for people to decide for themselves based on their own circumstances.
 
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My wife and I both have the 7+ and I only upgraded to the XRs for us so we can pass down our 7+s to the kids as their 6 phones are getting old and the batter life sucks. Hope I can get used to the lack of the home button...
 
Upgraded 2 7’s simply because Tmobile is giving $390 for them. Spread out bill credits are less than ideal but it’s still $ saved in the long run. I am holding onto my 10 line legacy plan until they pry it from me.
 
eyoungren said:
I've been waiting for a design I like since after the iPhone 5.

5s - No black.
6 - Fugly camera bump and antenna lines
6s - Same as 6
7 - Antenna lines gone, but fugly camera bump got bigger
8 - Fugly camera bump
X - Fugly camera bump
Xs - Fugly camera bump
XR - Fugly camera bump

Are you saying that if I wait until next year the fugly camera bump will be refined out of the design?

'cause I stopped waiting for a new redesign once the iPhone 7 launched. It's obvious Apple considers that a design element.

BTW, I DO have an iPhone 6s+ and I had a 6+ before that. But not because I wanted them.
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Don't ya just hate the voices in your head forcing you to purchase things you don't want.
 
The iPhone 7 is still an awesome phone. I’ve seen a few popping up around the company where I work as you can get them on some great deals right now, especially the 7+. If I owned it I would probably be waiting a year or two.
 
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eyoungren said:
I've been waiting for a design I like since after the iPhone 5.

5s - No black.
6 - Fugly camera bump and antenna lines
6s - Same as 6
7 - Antenna lines gone, but fugly camera bump got bigger
8 - Fugly camera bump
X - Fugly camera bump
Xs - Fugly camera bump
XR - Fugly camera bump

Are you saying that if I wait until next year the fugly camera bump will be refined out of the design?

'cause I stopped waiting for a new redesign once the iPhone 7 launched. It's obvious Apple considers that a design element.

BTW, I DO have an iPhone 6s+ and I had a 6+ before that. But not because I wanted them.
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I hate camera bumps too. The only thing that would have made the 5 series "sexier" would be glass on the back.
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Kendo said:
Best thing for iPhone 7 owners is to wait for next year
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I heard the 2025 iPhone is where it's at. ;)
 
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aneftp said:
You are wrong on the A10 to A11. That was like an “S” cycle processor upgrade. And we all know the S cycle processor upgrade are huge going from iPhone 7 A10 to A11 is a huge improvement.

Look at 3g to 3GS. 4 to 4s 5 to 5s and so on.

You are correct the A11 to A12 is a minor 15% bump in processor.

I’m not here to convince you to upgrade your iPhone 7. That’s a personal decision. It’s a 2 year old phone. And these days 2 year old iPhones are still very capable.

The common person regular upgrade cycle is likely 3 years these days anyways.

So just wait for the next iPhone if that’s what you want.
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You can’t compare older models before the 6s in terms of performance. The 7’s are very fast. In day to day tasks you won’t notice a speed bump.
3-3GS of course you felt it. 4-4s of course. But those days are over. After the 6+ phones are very similar in everyday tasks.
 
Oh look another justification thread.

-The iPhone 11 will likely look more or less the same as the X/Xs, minus whatever minor BS design change they make, like how they tweaked the antenna design from X to Xs and how the antenna lines, thickness, and back material changed on the 6-8 series. For the most part, it's going to look the same again
-The Xr is going to look the same, minus whatever minor BS design change they make, but I definitely wouldn't put smaller bezels in that category of possibilities
 
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