Best Video Player?

Discussion in 'macOS High Sierra (10.13)' started by Starfyre, Feb 17, 2018.

  1. Starfyre macrumors 68030

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    I use VLC. Is there a better video player people use? Or is VLC still the best?
    I used to really like MPlayerX, but it appears the software is out of date/no longer being updated and it just doesn't work well. I liked being able to pinch/zoom with two fingers to expand and reduce the size of the video playing area.
     
  2. colinsky macrumors member

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    VLC updated to version 3.0 last week. Ars Technica says it's a "significant update. The interface doesn't look that different, but a lot of new features are in there."
     
  3. thejackD macrumors newbie

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    Quicktime for M4V / MP4
    IINA VLC Movist for MKV /AVI
     
  4. k27 macrumors newbie

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    IINA uses MPV.
    Therefore IIANA should be the best player für MP4.
     
  5. Nick3 macrumors newbie

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    Movist. It's worth every penny. Videos run smoothly with low CPU and memory consumption.
     
  6. k27 macrumors newbie

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    Movist is a nice player.

    You can do other things with MPV such as Motion-based interpolation:
    https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/Interpolation

    "There are many available upscaling (interpolation) techniques in mpv, of which this article aims to provide some comparison screenshots."
    https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/Upscaling

    It would be nice if Movist could use mpv as well.
     
  7. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    I don't do torrents BUT I do know that:

    VLC has a big update. Can't see much difference. Still very bad at HEVC.
    Inna is a bit better at HEVC but still not watchable.

    It would be just great if Apple would let us play 4K HDR iTunes content on 2016-2017 MBPs that have the support in CPU AND GRAPHICS. I'm afraid that I just can't travel around with a television and Apple TV strapped to my back.
     
  8. Starfyre thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I wish Apple would just let us download the 4K HDR content without having to stream it so we can watch them without an internet connection.
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    Thank you for sharing this! IINA has the feature I missed most from MPlayerX, the ability to resize the video window using the trackpad pinch to zoom gestures! (Though it looks not as smooth as MPlayerX implementation, it is at least works!)
    VLC 3.0 update is nice, though as with 2.x, if you use the pinch to zoom, it just fills up the whole screen... or not. There is no in-between, which I think from a usability standpoint, makes me feel it is more dated than IINA.
     
  9. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    The rule at Apple has always been to screw customers, cripple features, sell additional crap customers don't need, obsolete products early and pressure upgrades on users. It's been that way since the 80s.

    So they cripple your graphics video acceleration UNTIL they move you on to a new machine. They produce **** graphics drivers so they move you on to a new machine. They pressure you to buy an Apple TV to watch 4K HDR content instead of using your shiny expensive machine even though you can't travel with an Apple TV. Then when you go on the iTunes Store and click on the section '4K HDR' you go in there and most of the stuff is plain 4K with no HDR.

    They are a mess.

    Just to prove how bad they have become at even the most simple and basic thing do this test.

    1. Get any new Mac made in the last 2 years. Click the desktop. Hit Command+N 10 times very quickly to make 10 Finder windows. There is a lag of around 2 seconds.

    2. Get a very old Mac that runs anything from OS 9 to Snow Leopard. Do the same thing as above. The Finder windows will be created in real time. No lag on the end.

    3. Same experiment with Windows 10. Create 10 File Explorer windows using Ctrl+N. No lag.

    So latest macOS operating system on latest super incredible hardware can't draw even 10 stupid Finder windows in real time.

    So I don't expect any decent next generation video playback on graphics hardware from them soon.
     
  10. k27 macrumors newbie

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    Type in commands in the advanced settings and you have even more features (MPV).
     
  11. Starfyre thread starter macrumors 68030

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    What makes IIANA better than MPV if mpv.io also has an OSX version?
     
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    just made over 20 finder windows, no lag (2016 12" macbook, entry level). your first paragraph says it all; thanks for sharing apple's 'rule'... o_O
     
  15. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    Post video. You are in denial whenever someone highlights a performance issue. You just post 'No problem here'. That's not helpful.
     
  16. thejackD macrumors newbie

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    agree
     
  17. fisherking macrumors 603

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    i just tried what you pointed out was an issue for you on my 2 macs, and did not have the issue. i reported that here. nothing more, nothing less.
     
  18. Crunch macrumors 6502a

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    Yea, I hear ya on some of the artifacts that show up every now and then, and I did also observe the 1-2s lag with the 10 Finder windows, but overall, I mean puh-lease, OS X is still mountains better than Windows ever was and probably ever will be.

    I just re-installed an older version of macOS because the newer one still sucks, and when I think about what re-installing NT, XP, Vista and Win 7 was like, it was an absolute pleasure and breeze to deal with the Mac. Thankfully, I saw the light and switched to the Mac after Win 7, so I never had to deal with Windows 8, 8.1, or 10.

    During the installation process, I also didn't have to go through 5 or 6 reboots, nor did I have to wait forever and a day for Windows to download dozens upon dozens of updates, sometimes over 100, and other times a whole Service Pack.

    When it was finally done, I then had to begin the arduous process of removing all the pre-installed crap-ware and trial versions of software I didn't want. Naturally, there were reboots involved here as well. And that's to say nothing of the dreaded BSODs (blue screens of death for those unfamiliar), the not infrequent crashes and comparatively poor overall stability depending on what software you paired with what version of Windows. I can't remember the last time I had a kernel panic. It was several Macs ago. It just doesn't happen.

    So yes, the 1-2 second lag is there and yes, I am no fan of the most recent version of macOS that I've been trashing in other threads as of late, but I'd rather wait 2 seconds for something I'll never do again than go through the constant pain that is working with Windows.
     
  19. Kawawolf macrumors newbie

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    I'll put a vote in for VLC. It basically eats anything you throw at it and its my default instead of something like QuickTime. I made some dvd rips and I thought I used common mp4 settings, and mp3 for audio compatibility across devices instead of aac or vorbis, but QuickTime doesn't like those encodes. VLC has no problem. I'm not looking at the interface of the player in full screen mode, so I don't mind the dated looks personally. :)
     
  20. Anderton macrumors member

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    It's not like you only can have one video player installed. In my own tests, mpv always performed best on a variety of files with different containers and codecs; which IINA gives a good GUI for.

    - VLC i use as a secondary player. It got plenty of features like encoding (even if i'm not really using VLC to encode movies) and stream capture and can be ”integrated” with things like Sopcast and similar.

    - Movist is great, and has a set of nice features. The playback is however in my experience not up to par with most of the other players as it uses somewhat outdated FFMPEG, and Quicktime (in older/non MAS versions).

    - Quicktime Player X is just a sad and don't support Apples own codecs and technologies.

    - For old media, with stuff using very old codecs which is not yet ready or working not so well on other players using libMPV, libVLC or similar, and wired Quicktime movies; Quicktime 7.x (which still works in some cases) is good to have installed.

    MplayerX is and has been outdated for a long time, and the developer gone shady with his bundling of adware (i rather just call it malware, for adware is malware in my point of view). Even if you can install it without the adware, i don't trust a developer like that anyway.

    There are other players, which is not listed here. Some of them are MplayerX based and are outdated at it's core. Others using ffmpeg or libVLC.
     
  21. Crunch macrumors 6502a

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    My vote is VLC as well. Too bad the Mac version can't open multiple videos at the same time and play them simultaneously. Not that I necessarily need that feature more than once or twice a year, but every now and then it would come in handy.

    I haven't taken close enough a look at the new VLC 3.0 yet to see if the feature was added, but I couldn't find it just on taking a glance at it.

    Every few months, I check out alternative players, and I also installed IINA, but honestly, I don't get it. What's so great about it? It's not even out of beta yet.

    VLC has an insane amount of powerful features that are not even really visible to the everyday user. I'm also looking forward to checking out the 1.0 version of VLMC, VLC Movie Creator.
     
  22. ElectronGuru macrumors 65816

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    That’s half the point. Like a toddler speaking in complete sentences, they nailed the execution so well and aren’t even v1 yet.

    The other half is that isn’t not the giant mess every feature possible player. It shouldnt take hours to figure out the preference window (movist). Name not withstanding, IINA feels curated - like each featured was hand picked and organized before being added. In a word: clean
     
  23. Anderton macrumors member

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    Regarding VLC, it's sad that VLCX project (one man) was abandoned, it had a great minimalistic UI (it did not have every feature of VLC). https://github.com/insidegui/VLCX screenshot3.png
     
  24. Crunch macrumors 6502a

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    I have been running it today and I agree, it's very stable and I like the way it lets you access very commonly used controls through various buttons and menus, and it really does have a clean interface. Very intuitive too.

    I would like to be able to have multiple videos playing at the same time. Perhaps in v1.0.
     

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