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Edit. Another big variable is quality control. That's the notorious shortcoming of a lot of Chinese mass production.

Higher priced items made at lower volume are typically (or presumably) priced to cover quality control (and marketing, packaging etc). Of course that's not always the case

And the Nodus demo shows a perfect prototype. So the video means little.

With sufficient QC I might expect comparable results. But if they're out to maximize profit margin with a fly by night product then it won't be the case and the item would ultimately flop. I feel that established companies are more likely to cut corners. Often it's the startups that have more to prove and are less likely to get away with cutting corners. I've talked with the designers and they are aware of this.
 
how nice with an upscale degree and a post in lab... But that is not the point. The salient difference between judging and guessing is that one is based on information (data) and the other is not.

I hate propaganda. They can only prove themselves by performing drop test experiments to clear the doubt on the strength of micro suction. It is a fair request for a pitch of phone protective case. Until then, any supporter without any actual product in their hands, should not brag about how good it is.
 
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how nice with an upscale degree and a post in lab... But that is not the point. You lost basic judgement.

I hate propaganda. They can only prove themselves by performing drop test experiments to clear the doubt on the strength of micro suction. It is a fair request for a phone protective case and it must be proven. Until then, any supporter without any actual product in their hands, should not brag about how good it is.
if you read my last couple of posts you'll understand that my enthusiasm is guarded, not an endorsement.

FYI you're the one who brought up credentials in order to qualify your argument. If you don't think it matters then don't bring it up.

As said before, if it turns out to be crap I'll post and you can be the first to call me a sucker (pun intended).

Happy holidays, buddy.
 
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I have the same experience with you while I was using BookBook with my old iPhone 4. Ever since I got my 5s upgrade, I've been searching for a better alternative. I found the perfect combo of iPhone case/wallet is from KYNEZ. No complains yet after several days of use.

I was asking you about the photos you posted on other thread but you didn't reply. I searched for your historical posts and I guest it must be Kynez. I'm interested in this phone+wallet hybrid, but it is not on sale yet at their official site. How did you get that? Please let me know. It'll probably solve my long-awaited problem in a fresh way :)
 
I was asking you about the photos you posted on other thread but you didn't reply. I searched for your historical posts and I guest it must be Kynez. I'm interested in this phone+wallet hybrid, but it is not on sale yet at their official site. How did you get that? Please let me know. It'll probably solve my long-awaited problem in a fresh way :)

You're right! I got mine on their special experience program. I paid 35 bucks after cash back. The original price of 65 bucks is a bit stiff for the case market which starts from 5 dollars for a plastic case, but is reasonable in the wallet market. Just google their web site for a contact and see whether the program is still available.

Personally, it should be considered the first at its own genre which is the "Wallet Case". It's far better than the similar attempt from SFBags which is far from a phone case as it claimed.

If you're looking for a phone case with a few card slots and at the same time keep your wallet as a separate item, don't be bothered.

If you're satisfied with a phone case carrying a few cards, then consider BookBook.
 
Personally, it should be considered the first at its own genre which is the "Wallet Case". It's far better than the similar attempt from SFBags which is far from a phone case as it claimed.

If you're looking for a phone case with a few card slots and at the same time keep your wallet as a separate item, don't be bothered.

If you're satisfied with a phone case carrying a few cards, then consider BookBook.

Thanks I got it. I have enrolled in their experience program. Eager to try out this new concept.

I have tried a few folio cases including BookBook. If I carried a folio case, I still need to bring my traditional wallet that carries cash and all sort of cards. Many folio cases dont really add up to the fact of being minimalist. What I need is to travel light without losing functionality and capacity. 2-in-1 means a true wallet plus a phone case that has immediate access to incoming calls and text. Folio case failed in this standard.

What sort of cons have you found from cazlet? Is it bulky and becoming tired if holding it too long?
 
Thanks I got it. I have enrolled in their experience program. Eager to try out this new concept.


What sort of cons have you found from cazlet? Is it bulky and becoming tired if holding it too long?

You might think it is thick and bulky, but the form factor make Cazlet a good shape to hold. My hand size is average and I feel comfortable with it.

One thing I like about the wallet case is that it opens on one side for easy access to the content in the wallet yet keeps it more private from public view.
 
The best wallet case would be one that can hold at least three credit cards AND has a pocket with window for a driver's license / ID.
 
The best wallet case would be one that can hold at least three credit cards AND has a pocket with window for a driver's license / ID.

A lot of people actually ignore the privacy issue here when using phone wallet or phone case with credit cards. This is important when I need to show my driving license at liqueur store, bars and clubs.

Can I NOT EXPOSE my credit cards to public while still showing my ID in protective sleeve to verify my age?

If I'm using BookBook, I have to forward the entire case to a readable distance and the person who is reading would know what other cards I'm having. The ID slot attached to a folio case such as BookBook is not really a practical design to me. If you choose not to forward your phone case and slide out the ID instead, what is the point of having transparent pocket at the first place?

I like my Cazlet. It features a transparent sleeve in matte vinyl. All I need to do is to flash my ID badge in a protective sleeve like an FBI agent, and keep my other stuffs from public eyes.
 
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Edit. Another big variable is quality control. That's the notorious shortcoming of a lot of Chinese mass production.

Higher priced items made at lower volume are typically (or presumably) priced to cover quality control (and marketing, packaging etc). Of course that's not always the case

And the Nodus demo shows a perfect prototype. So the video means little.

With sufficient QC I might expect comparable results. But if they're out to maximize profit margin with a fly by night product then it won't be the case and the item would ultimately flop. I feel that established companies are more likely to cut corners. Often it's the startups that have more to prove and are less likely to get away with cutting corners. I've talked with the designers and they are aware of this.

I wonder how much did Nodus pay you to spread good words for them? do you know how long they have delayed from their promised delivery date?
 
Distil wally case

I have used several wallet cases, but this one is by far my favourite!! Slick, holds 3 cards, easy to use, no cards is exposed when using the phone. I've used it for 3 month now and still loving it. It replaced my book book case and cut the thickness of the phone w/case in half:)
 

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I have used several wallet cases, but this one is by far my favourite!! Slick, holds 3 cards, easy to use, no cards is exposed when using the phone. I've used it for 3 month now and still loving it. It replaced my book book case and cut the thickness of the phone w/case in half:)

Now I like the way this one looks. Do you have a picture of the actual case? Thanks!
 
I wonder how much did Nodus pay you to spread good words for them? do you know how long they have delayed from their promised delivery date?
A startup Kickstarter company with shipping delays on a brand new product? *gasp* (that was sarcasm)

Did you look at when I posted that, smartypants? That was even before their Kickstarter closed and before the production delays.

Why the hostility, bro?

As with everyone else I'm still waiting for mine.
 
I bought a hand made leather wallet-case on Etsy for about the same prirce as the BookBook that I think is far superior. I'm writing this post because it's been several months and it's held up well, is still handsome, and I like the idea of pushing people towards a small company that does things well: Hand stitched iPhone 4/S case by zenokleather. I got THIS .
Thanks for posting this! I've been looking for exactly this type of case for my 4S for a long time. And a Canadian company to boot. Just ordered one.
 
Personally, it should be considered the first at its own genre which is the "Wallet Case". It's far better than the similar attempt from SFBags which is far from a phone case as it claimed.
SFBags a.k.a Waterfield Designs is an interesting company. They have ONE great product on which they founded their business - their Cargo bag which is well-conceived and well-built.

Based on my experience with the Cargo bag I tried their laptop sleeves, early PDA cases (for Palm Pilot) and their basic accessory pouches. None of those items would I recommend. The PDA case just dose not work well with the materials - fit is lousy and protection is worse. I'd expect their smartphone cases/wallets would be about as bad. The laptop sleeve (with no straps) was meant to protect it while in a larger bag. It had a tight fit but just added too much bulk. The version with straps is OK. The accessory pouch is just a pouch... Meh.
 
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Edit. Another big variable is quality control. That's the notorious shortcoming of a lot of Chinese mass production.

Higher priced items made at lower volume are typically (or presumably) priced to cover quality control (and marketing, packaging etc). Of course that's not always the case

And the Nodus demo shows a perfect prototype. So the video means little.

With sufficient QC I might expect comparable results. But if they're out to maximize profit margin with a fly by night product then it won't be the case and the item would ultimately flop. I feel that established companies are more likely to cut corners. Often it's the startups that have more to prove and are less likely to get away with cutting corners. I've talked with the designers and they are aware of this.

I don't what to say. You knew the Nodus creator and you're already making assumption that bu saying "And the Nodus demo shows a perfect prototype. ". IF everything can be judged by looking at the video or photo, we won't have so many notorious Kickstarter's campaigns.
 
I don't what to say. You knew the Nodus creator and you're already making assumption that bu saying "And the Nodus demo shows a perfect prototype. ". IF everything can be judged by looking at the video or photo, we won't have so many notorious Kickstarter's campaigns.

Ahah. You misunderstood my context completely... the point I was making was that you CAN'T assume something is perfect based on a preproduction demo. Any company is going to show off their best in a demo but that doesn't mean anything.

In other words, the demo does not represent the end product. It looked "perfect" ONLY BECAUSE it was a demo. That's the point I was making.

Here's my exact quote:
And the Nodus demo shows a perfect prototype. So the video means little
The other thing you missed is where you assume I know these guys. I don't.

When I saw the product on Kickstarter I emailed them with a lot of questions. That's the extent of my contact. You see, a lot of people make the mistake of ordering from Kickstarter as they would with Amazon... that's why you get misguided folks believing a startup should have a fully staffed customer service department or that they have complete control over their suppliers. More often than not you're dealing with folks who are just learning how to run a business with little or no business, manufacturing background. Kickstarter isn't Amazon and, often times the consumer experience sucks. That's why I ask a lot of questions before I put my money in.

I hope that makes things clear.

As was mentioned they have yet to ship. That doesn't bother me as much as the announcement that they changed the textured matte black leather to a shiny leather (which I don't like). I wrote about changing to the brown leather.

As I stated before, if the end product sucks I'll gladly post a fair update. And if I do get stuck with a POS I accept it's an inherent risk with Kickstarter stuff.
 
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In other words, the demo does not represent the end product. It looked "perfect" ONLY BECAUSE it was a demo. That's the point I was making.

Here's my exact quote:

The other thing you missed is where you assume I know these guys. I don't.

When I saw the product on Kickstarter I emailed them with a lot of questions. That's the extent of my contact. You see, a lot of people make the mistake of ordering from Kickstarter as they would with Amazon... that's why you get misguided folks believing a startup should have a fully staffed customer service department or that they have complete control over their suppliers. More often than not you're dealing with folks who are just learning how to run a business with little or no business, manufacturing background. Kickstarter isn't Amazon and, often times the consumer experience sucks. That's why I ask a lot of questions before I put my money in.

I hope that makes things clear.

As was mentioned they have yet to ship. That doesn't bother me as much as the announcement that they changed the textured matte black leather to a shiny leather (which I don't like). I wrote about changing to the brown leather.

As I stated before, if the end product sucks I'll gladly post a fair update. And if I do get stuck with a POS I accept it's an inherent risk with Kickstarter stuff.

No matter what, you will be owning us a fair review of Nodus product. I will cross reference the feedback posted in their Kickstarter forum. I just hope this Macrumors forum should not become a site for brand propaganda speculating "rumours" about how good the product is. If you have no hands on experience of the physical product and you never hold one in your hand, don't speculate and project a false image.
 
No matter what, you will be owning us a fair review of Nodus product. I will cross reference the feedback posted in their Kickstarter forum. I just hope this Macrumors forum should not become a site for brand propaganda speculating "rumours" about how good the product is. If you have no hands on experience of the physical product and you never hold one in your hand, don't speculate and project a false image.
*sigh*
Are we going to do this again?

"Propaganda?" I believe the term is typically only applicable to ideals/ideologies. I don't think you can apply that to a product.

The project seemed interesting and plausible at first. I got excited about it at the start. If it means anything I'm not quite as excited now after waiting this long.

Where you infer "speculation" is entirely your delusion - which has already been addressed. I'm fascinated that you still believe I'm linked with these folks. It's as if you've read none of my responses at all.

Evidently that's supposed to mean they're paying me to promote their product. Let's think about that - So those two fellas from the UK somehow recruited me in the US and are paying the mortgage on my home in Palo Alto, California just for me to push their product on Macrumors. Right.

A piece of advice: if you want to check if a poster is really just promoting their own (or their friend's) product there are a couple of things you can do.
First, check their posting history. If it's a new account or if it's their first and only post that could be a sign.
Second, actually read some of their early posts. If the posts are short, thoughtless quips designed to inflate their post count that would also be suspicious.
Third, check other iPhone/smartphone forums to see if that person posted the exact same thing. That's also a sign.
Fourth, see if they actually started brand new threads promoting the product instead of just posting about it on an existing thread.


Lastly, if I post a review - good or bad - it's as a courtesy to the folks who come to this forum for information. I don't "owe" you anything.
 
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Distil union case

Here is a picture of my case:)
 

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Thanks for posting this! I've been looking for exactly this type of case for my 4S for a long time. And a Canadian company to boot. Just ordered one.
Arrived. Perfect. Came with a nice handwritten note too. So nice not to hassle with two separate items. Well made, simple, looks nice though more rustic than another finer make that does not come in a 4S model. Thanks for the tip.
 
I bought a hand made leather wallet-case on Etsy for about the same price as the BookBook that I think is far superior. I'm writing this post because it's been several months and it's held up well, is still handsome, and I like the idea of pushing people towards a small company that does things well: Hand stitched iPhone 4/S case by zenokleather. I got THIS one.

Nice sharing, goodlooking case but also not cheap!
Those color such as brown and black are more suit for guys.
Maybe girls prefer for light color such as this one Credit Card Wallet Leather Case
 
durable?

IMHO

This is the best one I have come across:

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Thin, camera cut out, button closure. Slot for 2 cards and money. All that you need. Also has a snap case holder.. makes it really thin.

Looks great indeed, how long have you been using it? Does it last? :confused:
 
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