Best way to move from old Mac to new Mac

Discussion in 'macOS Sierra (10.12)' started by Growler, Nov 6, 2016.

  1. Growler macrumors newbie

    Growler

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    I will be moving from 2007 imac with mavericks to new imac with sierra. My old imac has been slow and crashes and many problems for over one year . So, I want to make the move as clean as possible! I plan to not move over my applications. I will re install them manually one by one later. I will use set up assistant.
    Here is my question, Would it be ok for me to Transfer user accounts, other files and folders, computer and network settings?
    Would this still be considered a very clean transfer of data?
    I'm trying to avoid transferring over any possible corrupted files.
    Thanks!
     
  2. randomgeeza macrumors 6502

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    The 'Set Up Assistant' or do you mean 'System Preferences' should cover the configuration of your computer and network, unless you have network shares. And that would be my first port of call in a clean install procedure. Therefore you will [should] not need to 'transfer' anything over. Next stop is installing your apps manually. Ideally, you will need to set up as much as possible, fresh. Hence, clean install. The only thing you should be transferring over is user files, media, documents etc. The likelyhood that anything within them is corrupt and having an impact on system performance is negligible. Try not to transfer anything system related, i.e. Library folders and preference files. There is no need and these do carry a risk of corruption.

    Good luck.
     
  3. Growler thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for the reply! I did mean to say set up assistant. On apple forums, I was told set up assistant is very similar to migration assistant but, s a is better. You can only use s a when you first turn on the new computer, otherwise you will have to use m a. I do not think I will need any help to manually re install the apps. I just do not know exactly what the steps are that s a will walked me through. I had searched and phone some tutorials that say what s a will do . I do not know this first handI do not know this 1st hand… Yet.
    The tutorial said that you will be asked to check up to four boxes . The boxes Are; Applications, user accounts, other files And folders And the last one is computer and network settings.
    So I know I will leave applications unchecked since I do not want to transfer over the applications from my old computer which may have some corruption. Regarding user accounts, i'm not sure. I definitely one to transfer over my mail and my personal documents and media files as you mentioned. So if I check user accounts and it gives me the option to select which user accounts I would only choose my own administrator account which I assume would then poured over the above mentioned mail and personal files. I would like to have all the set up files that I spend so much time tweaking for my mail program. This probably involves the mail p list files in the preferences folder.. However the next box is labeled other files and folders, I am not sure but I suspect that this will give me access to look through all the files and folders on my old system and check which ones I want to transfer over.
    Maybe I should not check user accounts and just check other files and folders and then manually move e-mails documents photos music at cetera? By the way I am using speech to text on my phone to reply. One concern I have with not transferring over my main user account is that it may wreak havoc with permissions for all my personal documents!
    The final box that I need to decide whether to check or not to check is in titled computer and network settings . I'm not sure what exactly this involves . That's why I wish someone who had been through this very thing could tell me rather than me Guessing what Each of these Involves. My concern is that I will only be allowed to either check or uncheck each of these four boxes and then set up assistant will do its thing, and it will be too late to change my options.
    You are correct that I do not want to transfer over system files if I can help it. If I knew that I would be able to micro-manage exactly what computer and network settings are going to be transferred over I could minimize those. For example network settings I could easily reset up myself. I don't need my new dock to exactly match my old dock.
    I'm also not exactly sure what the major differences are between set up assistant and migration assistant. I had asked many of these questions on the apple forums but no replies.

    So I need information from people who are experienced with using set up assistant.
    Maybe I should check none of the four boxes but then why am I using set up assistant? Or, maybe the only box I should chuck is other files and folders and then just navigate through my old system and chuck or drag over things like The contents of my folders such as male, documents, media at cetera . By the way apparently speech to text is not familiar with the abbreviation for at cetera, e t c.
    Thanks again to anywho replyThanks again to any who Reply!
     
  4. randomgeeza macrumors 6502

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    Ahhh I see, personally, I steer clear of these transfer apps, they can bring more problems than they are worth.

    I personally prefer clean installing and starting everything fresh, from new. Everything, the lot. The only thing I would transfer over is my media/data and that too would be manually. It may be best to park this until someone with the experience you need comes along.

    Good luck.
     
  5. Partron22 macrumors 68000

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    After that long, it's best to start fresh, and enter all network settings, mouse speed etc manually on your new Mac.
    Go through each System pref, and set it to your liking.
    Migration assistant is far from perfect. You're going to get some weird kext from 2007 transferred and it will make your life hard until you root it out.
    Export your bookmarks, xfer the file and import them. Docs at least should be OK.
     
  6. KALLT macrumors 601

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    Setup Assistant and Migration Assistant are effectively the same thing, the former merely includes the latter. To be honest, I think you should just move everything over form Time Machine, including your account and applications. You haven’t given any details about your iMac, but I am guessing that you were still using an HDD and limited RAM. If there are particular problems, then you can always ask for help here.
     
  7. actualdc1 macrumors newbie

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    How do you go about restoring from a time machine backup without bringing over problems with libraries, keychains, etc?
     
  8. colodane macrumors 6502a

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    A related question: Will Setup Assistant work across different OS versions? Specifically, old machine is on El Capitan, new one on Sierra.
     
  9. Growler thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'm back! Sorry to take so long to reply to those of you who were nice enough to respond to my original post. I've been very busy setting up the new iMac! Wow, I had a lot of wrong words and typos using speech to text on my phone! I'm actually now using speech to text on my shiny, new 27 inch, late 2015 iMac. But it is much easier to look at the Large screen and to edit any errors.


    So, after my last post on November 6, I couldn't wait anymore since my new Mac has arrived November 4 and I was anxious to start the transfer. Interestingly enough as I look at the replies, no no one with experience using set up assistant or even migration assistant posted with details. Perhaps no one knows? In any event, I telephoned AppleCare and asked them the question. They told me to only check the box to transfer my user account and nothing else. So, that is what I did. They said they doubted that there was much of a chance of corruption from the files in my user account. I actually do not know if that is true or not but, so far so good on the new iMac. I'm sure a lot of preference files got transferred over but not as many as if I would have checked other boxes and certainly not as many as if I would've transferred over my applications.


    So, regarding the four boxes that could be checked or left unchecked; Applications– No, user accounts– Yes (Just my main administrator account), other files and folders– No, Computer and network settings– No.


    I realize most of the people here said to only transfer over personal files. That probably would have been the cleanest way to do this but, also the most trouble. And I certainly would not have needed to use setup assistant or migration assistant. I would've simply set the new computer up as if that was my first ever computer. Which would certainly take quite a bit of time, especially to set up the mail program. Getting all the headings exactly the way I want them. Next re-download all the applications that I wanted. Then once the new computer was set up, with no personal files all, I would then be able to just use my Time Machine backup and just drag all over the contents of; documents, pictures, movies and music. Then since I would've backed up my favorites/bookmarks from all my browsers I would have replaced the empty favorites/bookmark folders with the contents of my saved bookmarks folders.


    Ironically, I did have to change some settings in my mail since it wasn't working because the wrong port had been selected/ported over.

    Must've come from my user account settings.
     
  10. KALLT macrumors 601

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    It is not just ‘some preference files’ your entire user directory was moved over. Depending on the problem you had, you could have moved that one over as well.
     
  11. Growler thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Yes, my library folder was moved over. It includes; accounts, address book, plug-ins application scripts, application support,(I didn't move any applications over so, I’m not sure there was anything in those folders), caches, calendars, cookies, favorites, iTunes library, keyboard, launch agents, Mail, preference pains, Preferences, Screen savers, services, Widgets and much more.
     

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