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gw0gvq

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Does anyone know when Big Sur is being released because all I got after partitioning my hard drive for it was a beta of 10.15.6 of mac OS Catalina and now Im wondering if to put the HD back to its usual size?
 

nortonandreev

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Does anyone know when Big Sur is being released because all I got after partitioning my hard drive for it was a beta of 10.15.6 of mac OS Catalina and now Im wondering if to put the HD back to its usual size?
Nobody knows for sure, but I suspect they will release developer beta 3 as public beta 1. Developer beta 3 is still not out, and usually the public beta comes few days later, especially when in that early stage of the beta testing. I would expect it by the end of the next week, but this is just a guess. Another possibility is if developer beta 3 is released today, then the public beta might be released by the end of this week, but this seems less likely.
 

Nymunariya

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you should be creating new containers, instead of partitions. Partitions cut up the harddrive, and to use the space again, you have to repartition allocating space to one partition or the other.

With containers, you basically set up categories for your files. Each container acts like a separate partition, but free space is shared between all containers in the group. That way, you don't have to worry about allocating too much or too little space for a partition, and can easily add and remove containers on the fly really easily.
 
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TitanTiger

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you should be creating new containers, instead of partitions. Partitions cut up the harddrive, and to use the space again, you have to repartition allocating space to one partition or the other.

With containers, you basically set up categories for your files. Each container acts like a separate partition, but free space is shared between all containers in the group. That way, you don't have to worry about allocating too much or too little space for a partition, and can easily add and remove containers on the fly really easily.

I get a little worried about allowing a beta OS to share the same filespace with my "production" OS. Just seems ripe for corruption.

I tend to do what he's done - create a small partition to monkey around with a new OS and get the feel of it. Once it's progressed to a general release, I blow away the partition and install the new OS on the main partition.
 

Nymunariya

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To be honest, not sure how to set up new containers on Catalina

it's super simple! Just open Disk Utility. Instead of clicking the button for partioning, just go to the plus/minus "Volume" button group (I'm in German, so it may be slightly different in English). With the plus you can easily add a new APFS-Volume as a container.
 

dsemf

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it's super simple! Just open Disk Utility. Instead of clicking the button for partioning, just go to the plus/minus "Volume" button group (I'm in German, so it may be slightly different in English). With the plus you can easily add a new APFS-Volume as a container.
That description is not quite correct.

Always set the Disk Utility View to Show All Devices.

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The traditional partition is a container when using APFS. An APFS Container will contain 1 or more Volumes. The volumes share the space within the container.

The primary container on a boot disk has 5 volumes. Disk Utility only shows two of them. Other 3 volumes are hidden.
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Since Apple recommends installing Big Sur in its own container, it will be necessary to select the top level device name and do a partition operation. This will create a new container with one volume. Depending on the current state of the disk, the partition may not work.

DS
 

ctbritt

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you absolutely do NOT want to use an APFS container. You should stick with a partition for the time being. From release notes:

If macOS Big Sur 11 beta is installed into the same APFS container as previous versions of macOS, system software updates can no longer be installed on the previous versions of macOS. (64411484)

This is a change from previous macOS versions, and it’s buried enough in the release notes that it will bite a lot of people.
 

fisherking

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Do we think they is why the public beta isn’t realised yet because the every day user won’t know how to partition their machine.

what percentage of macusers partition their drives? the public beta will be released when apple chooses to release it. i'm just backing up my catalina mac (with carbon copy cloner), then will dive in... fun stuff!
 
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dsemf

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you absolutely do NOT want to use an APFS container. You should stick with a partition for the time being. From release notes:



This is a change from previous macOS versions, and it’s buried enough in the release notes that it will bite a lot of people.
The requirement from Apple is that Big Sur should not be installed in the same container as Catalina or Mojave. The partition process will create a new APFS container by default. It is possible to create other partition types such as HFS+ or ExFat.

DS
 

robvthof

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You could partition the disk in 2 partitions.
In each partition make an APFS container with 1 or more volumes. Put Big Sur in its own container.

I have one partition with volumes for High Sierra and Catalina.
The other partition will have Big Sur in its own volumes.
 

LFC2020

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Since Catalina 10.15.6 got released today, what are the chances we’ll see Big Sur public beta tomorrow? ?
 

johannnn

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The beta.apple.com "enroll your device" page is full of "public beta" wording, even for macOS. It's so confusing. I really thought the public beta was released already.
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Acidsplat

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you absolutely do NOT want to use an APFS container. You should stick with a partition for the time being. From release notes:



This is a change from previous macOS versions, and it’s buried enough in the release notes that it will bite a lot of people.
Weird that I didn't hear about this. I was able to install 10.15.6 just fine in a container dual-booting Catalina and Big Sur.
 

velocityg4

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The beta.apple.com "enroll your device" page is full of "public beta" wording, even for macOS. It's so confusing. I really thought the public beta was released already. View attachment 935912

I saw this too. I was stoked. Got my device enrolled. The instructions said Big Sur should show up in Software Update. Then after searching. I realized it was still in developer only Beta. ?
 
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