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Originally posted by mustang_dvs
The command line environment in the matrix is, in fact *NIX, but which flavor is unknown. The hack Trinity performs is real. She uses Nmap version 2.54BETA25 to find a vulnerable SSH server, and then proceeds to exploit it using the SSH1 CRC32 vulnerability, which was discovered in November 2001.

I noticed that....I randomly paused looking to see the screen and what she was typing...
 
Heh... guys, we all may dislike Microsoft with a passion, but when all is said and done, Bill Gates is still richer than you. He's one smart guy, ya know, and though we may hate his tactics, they've worked...

That said, let Microsoft die a firey death. I'm all about Linux and our [linux] mail servers. Even their secure mail server can be easily compromised (front page /. article, check it out).
 
Originally posted by zync
Technically Microsoft really took off when Gates purchased DOS (bet that guy killed himself...can't remember his name now though) which was command line...granted they don't use it now, but they have used command line before...

The guy was Tim Patterson and it was QDOS which itself was a clone of CP/M (the de-facto operating system of the time and the original OS that IBM wanted before going to Microsoft). Here is a history..

Microsoft was already an established company at the time else IBM wouldn't have approached them. (Many us "old foggies" remember that at one time Microsoft Corp. made CP/M enabling hardware for the Apple ][+.) In fact, outside of IBM, they were the first company to sell software. It is hard to point to a single incident that caused Microsoft to take off. While the events you describe was one of them, so was licensing Mac OS from Apple, and a number of other "dumb luck" events.

Windows used to run on top of DOS, but it now runs on the "New Technology" (NT) microkernel (sort of like Mac OS X runs on Darwin). In fact, many parts of the NT kernel were lifted from the Berkeley Unix operating system (TCP stack, zip compression, etc.) also before developing NT, their programmers needed to learn how to write a real OS so they made a clone of the Unix OS which was eventually sold to SCO.

Windows (NT, 2000, XP) still has a command line. In fact, it even has a shell--the shell is a clone of Korn Shell from AT&T Unix. (There is an interesting story where a guy once corrected the Microsoft product manager that it wasn't really Korn Shell. The product manager got angry and insistent until someone in the audience pointed out that he was arguing with David Korn himself.)

In fact, Microsoft sells Windows Services for Unix which is a misnomer because what it mostly does is allow you to make your Windows system more unix like on the command line. It's just hard to find information because their website is littered with "migrate from Unix to Windows" stuff.

I know this is off topic, but some of the readers might find it fascinating. After all, it seems many people's recounting of the events seem to come from movies such as "Pirates of Silicon Valley."

Originally posted by zync
I noticed that....I randomly paused looking to see the screen and what she was typing...

You know when you're a geek when you knew instantly what she was typing when you saw it in the movie theatre.

Much better than the "This is a unix system... I know this." from Jurassic Park.
 
No comment.:rolleyes:
What's worst, now millions of people who will find this 'cool' will go out and buy more Microsoft products.
 
Yea I remember when the Apple GUI first came out and all the DOS addicts said real computer users don't use GUI.

Then the windows shell came out and then....

By the way I'll take that BIG BLUE PILL instead of the red pill and a trip into wonderland thank you, I got better things to do with my time than finding out how far Microshaft can yank me around.
 
Re: Re: Great Comparison

Originally posted by LethalWolfe
Well, it was a lot longer than 6 months between The Matrix, and Reloaded, and Revolutions wasn't a sequal to Reloaded but the 2nd half of a single story. So yer anti-MS out lash kinda falls flat. ;)


Lethal

Actually neither are sequels...it's a trilogy yes, but it's a single story in three volumes...just like LotR...
 
Originally posted by tychay
The guy was Tim Patterson and it was QDOS which itself was a clone of CP/M (the de-facto operating system of the time and the original OS that IBM wanted before going to Microsoft). Here is a history..

Microsoft was already an established company at the time else IBM wouldn't have approached them. (Many us "old foggies" remember that at one time Microsoft Corp. made CP/M enabling hardware for the Apple ][+.) In fact, outside of IBM, they were the first company to sell software. It is hard to point to a single incident that caused Microsoft to take off. While the events you describe was one of them, so was licensing Mac OS from Apple, and a number of other "dumb luck" events.

Windows used to run on top of DOS, but it now runs on the "New Technology" (NT) microkernel (sort of like Mac OS X runs on Darwin). In fact, many parts of the NT kernel were lifted from the Berkeley Unix operating system (TCP stack, zip compression, etc.) also before developing NT, their programmers needed to learn how to write a real OS so they made a clone of the Unix OS which was eventually sold to SCO.

Windows (NT, 2000, XP) still has a command line. In fact, it even has a shell--the shell is a clone of Korn Shell from AT&T Unix. (There is an interesting story where a guy once corrected the Microsoft product manager that it wasn't really Korn Shell. The product manager got angry and insistent until someone in the audience pointed out that he was arguing with David Korn himself.)

In fact, Microsoft sells Windows Services for Unix which is a misnomer because what it mostly does is allow you to make your Windows system more unix like on the command line. It's just hard to find information because their website is littered with "migrate from Unix to Windows" stuff.

I know this is off topic, but some of the readers might find it fascinating. After all, it seems many people's recounting of the events seem to come from movies such as "Pirates of Silicon Valley."



You know when you're a geek when you knew instantly what she was typing when you saw it in the movie theatre.

Much better than the "This is a unix system... I know this." from Jurassic Park.

I know it still has a command line though I wasn't aware of all the trials and tribulations that MS went through to develop NT. That was interesting. I wish I would've known what she was doing as she did it...I saw it while watching the DVD....I'm not that up on my *NIX yet...
 
Re: Re: Re: Great Comparison

Originally posted by zync
Actually neither are sequels...it's a trilogy yes, but it's a single story in three volumes...just like LotR...

YAY! Someone finally gets it! The only thing I can't stand more than people mindlessly bashing the Matrix (not that all Matrix bashing is mindless), is mindlessly bashing the Matrix Revolutions or Reloaded as stand alone works of film. They are all the same piece of art divided over three films, cause 7 hours would give you a serious butt cramp!

Originally posted by Brent Turbo
Who cares?

Thank you for being descriptive, such lavish use of explanation is rare these days. Your post is so deep, that it's meaning has totally escaped me. ;)
 
Originally posted by stoid
Actually, and surprisingly no one mentioned it yet, I enjoyed that parody a great deal. They even got the guy who player the Keymaker to come back. Great stuff!!:D :D :D

Yeah I knew I liked him...but after I saw him there, I liked him even more....

"I invented several popular video games including Q*Bert and Dig Dug. I didn't invent Frogger but I came up with the name for it. Can you believe they wanted to call it 'Highway Crossing Frog'?"
 
This just proves to me that even with all the money these guys have, they are still huge nerds. I guess money can't make someone cool.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Great Comparison

Originally posted by stoid
Thank you for being descriptive, such lavish use of explanation is rare these days. Your post is so deep, that it's meaning has totally escaped me. ;)

It's more a "read between the lines," kinda post. Microsoft produced a video about themselves, praising themselves! And lo, the world keeps turning. It's not a Mac Rumor, nor is it particularly interesting in any way. That's what I meant by, "Who cares?"
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Great Comparison

Originally posted by stoid
YAY! Someone finally gets it! The only thing I can't stand more than people mindlessly bashing the Matrix (not that all Matrix bashing is mindless), is mindlessly bashing the Matrix Revolutions or Reloaded as stand alone works of film. They are all the same piece of art divided over three films, cause 7 hours would give you a serious butt cramp!

Yeah I had to say it cause no one ever does...it's like that psychological problem humans have...the more people that see an accident, or anything else wrong like power being out or something, occur the less people are likely to help, which really sucks....yes that's actually a psychological problem...and you just figured somebody else would do it didn't you! didn't you! :D
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but MS has chosen IBM PPC chips for upcoming consoles...PS3 just gained some market edge due to mysterious delivery problems from IBM to M$.
 
Re: Ironic

Originally posted by mustang_dvs
Actually, this "take the red pill" business is rather ironic...

Remember, in "The Matrix," the red pill was a traceroute program which allowed Morpheus and crew to exploit a security vulnerability and perform a denial of service attack against Neo's connection to the matrix.

'Course, being Windows, it'd be a tracert.exe program (still 8-char filename compliant after all these years). The vulnerability would be Certificate Validation Flaw Could Enable Identity Spoofing (329115) (an advisory for which is in my MS Security Bulletins mailbox, dated 13/11/03). The denial of service bit would be the MSBlaster worm, which crashes the RPC service.

Incidentally, the thing which made the Blaster worm such a pain for most users wasn't actually the fact that the RPC service crashed. It was due to the fact that Windows is configured to roll over and die with a mandatory reboot if the RPC service shut down. The crash itself wasn't annoying -- it was Windows' response to the crash that led to the reboot..

... oops, OT. Sorry :)
 
Looks like Bill has finally found something he cannot have,he cant pull off cool.The reason he cant pull off some style is because millions of people if asked what their first thoughts were on hearing the name Bill Gates,would be somethng like that rich nerd who owns MS,its subconscious,hes screwed he will never get rid of that image.
 
Anyone seen it?

Did it include the scene where Neo woke up in the cocoon after eating the pill with nasty slime all around him?
 
Originally posted by SeaFox


I never really got the Neo-Smith thing. Shouldn't Smith have been thankful to Neo for freeing him from the Matrix?

Neo did not free them from the matrix, given that the Agent Smith is a prgram. and really neo didn't really destroy the agent smith program either, it was the machines who, when neo was "assimilated" they gave him like a turbo boost of power and then all the smiths died...

aethier
 
all i can add to this is 3 years too late. dont know if anyone else gives a rats ass about all of this looks like a funny spoof and well with there money who can blame them.


TRY HAAAAARRRRRRDDDDDSSSSSSS...

Nerds vile
etc etc

<insert your feelings here>
 
Microsoft are the Agents!

I'd just like to say

HELLO??!!

Bill Gates, and Steve Ballmer and Microsoft are really the agents! Linux and the open sourcers are Morpheus, Neo, Trinity, and the like. They're the one's rebelling from the ever-pursuing agents that change forms (like entering into new markets), hacking into the "Matrix" run by robots (or maybe, Windows riddled with bugs and viruses [like the one that was planted into Neo - remember?], run by souless individuals).

They got it all wrong and totally misunderstood what the movie The Matrix is all about!
 
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