Putting aside the invention of personal computing...which is highly dubious, did you guys read the section about Microsoft and security?? (Which is another can of worms to deal with) But one thing he mentioned that got to me was that a 20byte fix came in a megabyte sized download... what the hell was all that extra code for?
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Bill Gates Invented Personal Computing !!!! Yay!
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It does make you wonder how they patch programs doesn't it.
They definatly have the monopoly on bloat!
They definatly have the monopoly on bloat!
Steve Jobs never said he invented the GUI, he actually specifically said that when he visited PARC, that he was amazed that no one was pursuing/comercializing the ideas they had...and don't forget, personal computing was around long time before MS bought DOS and let IBM licence it.
Also, Morgan, don't change the quote to something it isn't. Bill Gates said "We invented personal computing," not "We were involved with the development of Personal Computing." If that was so, I wouldn't waste my time....
i just want to point out, i don't care when microsoft was founded, the only reason microsoft exists as it does today is because IBM was producing hardware that MS wanted in on... MS could have never produced hardware, whereas Apple already was, which was why IBM decided to even make the hardware. They had misconceptions that the whole thing would be a failure, but that they needed to get their foots in the door anyway.
so you've got Apple, a company mostly run by a bunch of hippies, against IBM, a company that had existed for a century before and had already become a massive conglomerate. MS simply rode IBM to the top, while Apple knew that they needed to make both hardware and software---
now granted, in the 80's, Apple did get to be very large and dominating, and if things had turned out right, they'd be the ones with 90% marketshare. unfortunately for them (not for us, apple would be completely different) a string of mistakes ruled out any chance of that...
pnw
so you've got Apple, a company mostly run by a bunch of hippies, against IBM, a company that had existed for a century before and had already become a massive conglomerate. MS simply rode IBM to the top, while Apple knew that they needed to make both hardware and software---
now granted, in the 80's, Apple did get to be very large and dominating, and if things had turned out right, they'd be the ones with 90% marketshare. unfortunately for them (not for us, apple would be completely different) a string of mistakes ruled out any chance of that...
pnw
Though he did bring the first GUI-based computer to market with some ideas inherent to the Lisa's architecture and OS, that took a long time to return to any Apple OS.
The Lisa was way ahead of it's time.
Thought the Mac did take Lisa's Quickdraw and the GUI, and build the next generation of computer.
Bill Gates is a nasty little bull****ter.
Oh, yeah, and Michael Dell brought the "first" WiFi laptop to market (a full year after Apple did).
Let's face it, there are innovators and imitators and then there are thieves. Apple is the innovator, Dell is the imitator, and Microsoft are the theives.
Oh, yeah, and Michael Dell brought the "first" WiFi laptop to market (a full year after Apple did).
Let's face it, there are innovators and imitators and then there are thieves. Apple is the innovator, Dell is the imitator, and Microsoft are the theives.
Gates did see the PC coming before most other people, except maybe Jobs.
I don't consider the Altair a PC because it was a hobbyist machine, not one for the average man to use. I think by that standard the Apple II was the first PC.
I don't consider the Altair a PC because it was a hobbyist machine, not one for the average man to use. I think by that standard the Apple II was the first PC.