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Billy Corgan using an iMac on stage.
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crachoar said:
From what I understand, and, granted, this came from Corgan's mouth a year or two back, James Iha actually broke up the Smashing Pumpkins... Which makes sense, since at the time they didn't have Darcy so she wasn't a major player, and obviously Chamberlin and Corgan got along well enough to start Zwan, so logically that does single out Iha. I agree on Zwan, they had an okay song or two, but, eek, not very good. I'm curious to see if Corgan's new stuff sucks or is Pumpkinsesque.
Whats the iMac for though???
First of all..the is my first post on these forums. After reading the site for a year or so i finally decided to post..lol
Just wondering what its (the iMac) for? Is he running a soft synth through it, other effects or other audio programs such as Reaktor or Max/MSP??? Were there any visuals going on in the show?? If so it may be Jitter running on the iMac.
Also on the Pumpkins...i thought the main reason for the break-up was the fact that the band had been together for quite a long time, there were beginning to be creative differences in the band (d'arcy leaving, the James wanting to go solo, Jimmy and his various problems), and they just kept pushing themselves into a corner with their music, that being a corner that only allowed two ways out...one being keep the band together and change the image totally or break-up.
Personally Adore and Machina were good, but different...very different. Even Machina, if we can call it a return to the pre-Adore "rock" that the band was known for, was somewhat lack luster, and it was a lot more pretentious than other Corgan-fueled rock. That said I was dissapointed by Zwan; it was a little to, well "nice" for me. It just didnt connect to who I am like the Pumpkins did, and if the single off of Billy's new album is any indication of the rest of the album I will not be buying it. Billy is best when he is rocking, pissed and screaming his lungs out, followed by a sudden change to sweet, soft, etc. If you have seen the Pumpkins live you will know what I am saying (that or listen to a live recording of Silverf*ck or Soma). Those drastic changes in emotion/music/lyrics are the heart of the Pumpkins music. Having seen over 50 live Pumpkins shows, it still hurts that they are gone, but I do believe that Billy has lost some of his anger (or whatever you want to call it) that infused so much of the Pumpkins music with raw emotion that is virtually unseen in "pop" music today...
If ya havent seen em live, check out their DVD's...Vieuphoria and the Greatest Hits Collection (which has some live video as well)
That said...Machina II: FAEOMM is great..and i highly recommend listening to "If there is a God" (piano and vox version)
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On a closer look at that pic, it kind of looks like he is running Max/MSP..but it would be helpful to know what the guy near the computer (the guy behind Billy) was playing. With all the MIDI controllers in that pic, and the dig. drum set, Max/MSP would make a lot of sense, especally to make large scale changes (say changing drum sounds/keyboard sounds/effects loaded into play) when changing from song-to-song. Just an idea.....
First of all..the is my first post on these forums. After reading the site for a year or so i finally decided to post..lol
Just wondering what its (the iMac) for? Is he running a soft synth through it, other effects or other audio programs such as Reaktor or Max/MSP??? Were there any visuals going on in the show?? If so it may be Jitter running on the iMac.
Also on the Pumpkins...i thought the main reason for the break-up was the fact that the band had been together for quite a long time, there were beginning to be creative differences in the band (d'arcy leaving, the James wanting to go solo, Jimmy and his various problems), and they just kept pushing themselves into a corner with their music, that being a corner that only allowed two ways out...one being keep the band together and change the image totally or break-up.
Personally Adore and Machina were good, but different...very different. Even Machina, if we can call it a return to the pre-Adore "rock" that the band was known for, was somewhat lack luster, and it was a lot more pretentious than other Corgan-fueled rock. That said I was dissapointed by Zwan; it was a little to, well "nice" for me. It just didnt connect to who I am like the Pumpkins did, and if the single off of Billy's new album is any indication of the rest of the album I will not be buying it. Billy is best when he is rocking, pissed and screaming his lungs out, followed by a sudden change to sweet, soft, etc. If you have seen the Pumpkins live you will know what I am saying (that or listen to a live recording of Silverf*ck or Soma). Those drastic changes in emotion/music/lyrics are the heart of the Pumpkins music. Having seen over 50 live Pumpkins shows, it still hurts that they are gone, but I do believe that Billy has lost some of his anger (or whatever you want to call it) that infused so much of the Pumpkins music with raw emotion that is virtually unseen in "pop" music today...
If ya havent seen em live, check out their DVD's...Vieuphoria and the Greatest Hits Collection (which has some live video as well)
That said...Machina II: FAEOMM is great..and i highly recommend listening to "If there is a God" (piano and vox version)
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On a closer look at that pic, it kind of looks like he is running Max/MSP..but it would be helpful to know what the guy near the computer (the guy behind Billy) was playing. With all the MIDI controllers in that pic, and the dig. drum set, Max/MSP would make a lot of sense, especally to make large scale changes (say changing drum sounds/keyboard sounds/effects loaded into play) when changing from song-to-song. Just an idea.....
It's really common. Something akin to 7 of the last 8 gigs I've seen have had either a 15" Powerbook, an iBook (believe it or not), or a PMG5 tucked away. One band had 2 PBs and a PM, and one had 3 PBs!JeffTL said:
...limited to 8... I can't remember any futher back... I know Apoptygma are macheads, though, so hey must have... *thinks*.
I was at the gig last night and have to say it was a bit disappointing! The music was only so-so and he only played new songs so the set was rather short (around an hour). I can confirm that the keyboard player has an iMac. In addition there were 2 PowerBooks off stage right (probably running the screen which is really cool) and another PowerBook on the mixing desk.
Well EXCUUUUSSSSEEE Me. The point was that there are a lot of people who say they wouldn't buy the album based on the weak single. My BT staement was letting folks know that it was up there pre-release and that they could check it out before buying. Now that it's in the stores/iTMS - go buy it if you like it.Lacero said:
"It's like saying you can catch the latest news on http sites."
BTW - for the latest news on Macintosh rumors check out https://www.macrumors.com ...smarta$$
Corgan's new album is up on his myspace account for free. Check his website and click on MySpace.
I saw him tonight! Along with an iMac there were also two powerbooks (that I could see) off to the side of the stage. I'd guess one was helping out the guy on the iMac, and the other was controlling the excellent visuals behind him!
An interesting gig, not quite what I was expecting, not having heard much of his new stuff, but not bad! And certainly, as my mate said "another one to cross off the list"...!
Hob
I saw him tonight! Along with an iMac there were also two powerbooks (that I could see) off to the side of the stage. I'd guess one was helping out the guy on the iMac, and the other was controlling the excellent visuals behind him!
An interesting gig, not quite what I was expecting, not having heard much of his new stuff, but not bad! And certainly, as my mate said "another one to cross off the list"...!
Hob
So i thought the smashing pumpkins broke up because corgan felt like he was doing everything. supposedly he played all the instruments in the studio and the band was only there for the live shows? SP conspiracies abound!
Also, I thought Zwan was pretty good, I really like the song Yeah!
Also, I thought Zwan was pretty good, I really like the song Yeah!
hob said:
Bumping up this thread since I can confirm Keane uses a PowerBook.
I recently became a fan and found this streaming video of an Amsterdam concert:http://streams.planet.nl/cgi-bin/reflector.cgi?dir=planet&subdir=hmh&stream=HMH_KEANE_BB&type=wmv
IIRC it's really obvious during the intro to Bedshaped, their last song - but you can tell elsewhere.
A few weeks ago I saw Rilo Kiley in concert and one of their keyboards was plugged into a nice shiny Powerbook.
Didn't have a camera to take a pic tho.
Didn't have a camera to take a pic tho.
EGT said:
Mmmm... Greenwood... Everything he touches turns to gold
I wonder what program he's using on the iBook? Looks like about half a dozen possible things, including Soundtrack, Garageband (I doubt it!), is there Cubase for Mac? ARGH!edit: I guess it's probably Jitter...?
eh I saw the pumpkins in 2000 (last tour) and it was brutal, it was in Winnipeg, MB and you could tell they didn't want to be there.
Absolutely terrible. When I saw him live, you could tell he wanted to be back with The Pumpkins. He'd basically reformed them onstage - a female bassist, a drummer, another dude and himself.PlaceofDis said:
I remeber reading somewhere he'd taken out a full-page ad in some Chicago newspaper (the herald? the tribune? something like that) publicly announcing he wanted the pumpkins back together... this was about a month after his solo album was released.
I'd love them to get back together, but only if it was for the right reasons and the music was goooooood....
hob said:
i actually think it was the day his solo album came out that he did that.
he does miss his old band. i think he needs jimmy. they work so well together.
i would like to see the pumpkins reform. but who knows.
Drewswa77 said:So you listened to 2 albums. And feell that one is better then the other. Disregarding 4 other albums
And he did well to do so! I listened to all there stuff and nothing came near Siamese Dream
DUDE! check "Tila Tequila" in his "Friends Space". dont know about her music but she is SSSMMMOOOKKKIINN!!!!hob said:
Heres a pic from her site
Oh yea, the Pumpkins are one of my all time faves!
Okay, just listened to some of her songs. Survey says;
Her- HOT!!!
Music-NOT!!!
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Wow... I think I found a new stalkee!freeny said:DUDE! check "Tila Tequila" in his "Friends Space". dont know about her music but she is SSSMMMOOOKKKIINN!!!!
Heres a pic from her site
Oh yea, the Pumpkins are one of my all time faves!
