Black bars on both sizes, but far worse on 11"

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  1. ryuok macrumors regular

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    I have been playing with both sized iPads, and black bars can be found on both sizes for almost all non-Apple apps.

    There are two kinds of black bars:

    1) Rounded corner black bars: This is similar to the iPhone X situation, before apps are updated to accommodate the extra spaces extended by the rounded corners. This affects both the 11" model and 12.9" model.

    2) Aspect ratio black bars: This only happens on 11", and it is far worse and far more notifiable than the "Rounded corner black bars". If an app is not coded to dynamically adapt to aspect ratio, you'll see horrifyingly large black bars especially in landscape mode. It's almost like seeing an iPad mini sized app, inside an 11" screen. Populars apps such as Facebook and Netflix are affected by this.
     
  2. jun180 macrumors regular

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    Yes, here’s an example on he 12.9 I just picked up of the first type of black bars.
     

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  3. JonoNZ macrumors newbie

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    Yeah I’ve noticed them on lots of apps on my 11”
    - Apps that were previously not updated for the 10.5” now show black bars down the left and right hand sides (landscape)
    - Apps that have not been updated for the 11” show black bars top and bottom

    Even Apple apps like iWork have the latter problem, go figure!

    The good news? Apps look soooo bad that I expect developers to fix them quickly. It’s not like on the 10.5” where the scaling was very subtle so devs could get away without updating.
     
  4. chfilm macrumors 68000

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    Holy god, this is AWFUL, I couldn’t find a single app other than the notoriously up to date THINGS by cultured code, that‘s currently optimized. The worst examples that I found were Netflix and Adobe Lightroom. TERRIBLE! Hope there‘s gonna be a ton of updates soon.
     
  5. Mr.Blacky macrumors 6502

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    The 12,9" iPad has the exact same resolution as the previous ones. It doesn't make any sense, that there are black bars, until I missed something?o_O
     
  6. LazyWhippet macrumors member

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    The new gestures bar will cause issues if not correctly implemented
     
  7. MadeByApple macrumors regular

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    Also the rounded corners for the screen requires apps to be updated.

    Nothing but a minor trade off-- the price we pay for being early adopters.
     
  8. macdaddy1991 macrumors regular

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    This was a deciding reason that I went with the 12.9 over the 11. This is the first iPad with an aspect ratio other than 4:3. I knew the app situation would be a bit of a **** show
     
  9. ryuok thread starter macrumors regular

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    You are right! It might be a good thing that these apps look so radiculous and unbearable.
     
  10. DNichter macrumors 604

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    No worries, apps will get updated or get deleted.
     
  11. canyonblue737 macrumors 6502a

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    Apple has already set March as the hard date where you can’t even submit a new or updated app that doesn’t comply with the new iPad sizes. That’s 4 months from now, I suspect most current major apps will be updated far, far sooner. There may be some no longer updated apps like some games that are never fixed but that will be the exception not the rule.
     
  12. flur macrumors 68000

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    “Horrifying large”? Come on. It’s a screen. And it’s temporary. :rolleyes:
     
  13. cmaier macrumors G4

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    I expect a flurry of app updates today
     
  14. sonicrobby macrumors 68020

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    Thankfully it does sound like a temporary issue, but it still sucks to get a brand new beautiful device and see this flaw with apps. It should just be a slight resolution change for Devs though, hopefully they will be updated quickly.
     
  15. cmaier macrumors G4

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    Generally speaking, all they have to do is recompile using 12.1 as a target. Most apps won’t require any addditional work.

    And devs cants submit updates after March unless they are in compliance.
     
  16. Snapperjw macrumors regular

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    It’s just so inconsistent with apps. The BBC iPlayer and News app look really bad, but the BBC Sport app fills the whole screen. Weird!
     
  17. canyonblue737 macrumors 6502a

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    It’s actually not. Apple has asked developers to build their apps with an API framework that is designed to be flexible to screen size for several years now. The apps that were made that way adapt automatically or with little developer effort. The ones hardcoded to size will have trouble.
     
  18. DNichter macrumors 604

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    Apple should have made it mandatory.
     
  19. unobtainium macrumors 68020

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    Maybe but I’d say updates will trickle in over November and December. Anything not updated by the end of December is getting deleted from my device.
     
  20. macduke macrumors G3

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    The price of being an early adopter. This has happened a lot over the years
    • iPad (lots of iPhone apps blown up)
    • iPhone 4 (pixelation hell)
    • iPad 3 (pixelation hell)
    • iPhone 5 (not tall enough apps)
    • iPhone 6/6 Plus (scaled huge)
    • iPad Pro 10.5" (blown up)
    • iPhone X (not tall enough apps)
    • Apple Watch Series 4 (apps not filling display)
    • iPhone XS Max (blown up)
    And now this with the 2018 11" and 12.9" iPad Pro.

    From what I can tell the 12.9" seems easier to fix but it seems like historically developers have cared less about updating their apps for the 12.9" so I'm a bit worried now that I have moved to the larger size. But this time around it seems like the 12.9" is more popular than before so we'll see.
     
  21. flur macrumors 68000

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    I’ve done a brief check of my apps and almost all of them go full width on the 11”. None of the video apps—Netflix, Hulu, HBOGo, YouTube, Prime Video, DirectvNow—go full width. So that blows the idea that they use an Apple internal full screen rendering and will automatically be full screen out of the water. That said, they’re no smaller than on my 9.7” Air 2, and will look amazing once they’re updated. So, I’m going with it. Hopefully they’ll update soon.

    I’m pretty busy getting ready for a trip, but I’ll be reaching out to all of them to ask that they update their apps for the new sizes. If you want a dev to update an app, ask. The more requests they get, the faster they’ll get on it.
    --- Post Merged, Nov 7, 2018 ---
    So far, Procreate is the only app I’ve seen that’s updated for the rounded corners.

    I really wish they’d let us hide the home bar. Even if the space is there, I don’t want to see the d@&$ bar.
     

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