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Wow, you really are a newbie! Are you new to shopping online too?!? LOL, committing a crime? Sssshhh, don't let the retailers find out that they're not supposed to charge tax if they don't do business in your state. I thought everyone knew that by now, or at least those who shop online. It's been that way for many years.

And what "sales tax" are you required to pay at the end of the year??? Do you know the difference between sales tax & income tax? Damn.

Your post would be funny if it wasn't 100% incorrect.... Well... maybe that does make it a little funny...
 
EPP discounts

I checked the EPP store, and the BF discounts stack on top of regular EPP discounts. For example, 32GB iTouch is $354.
 
But it is worth noting for the legions that believe Apple is some sort of benevolent entity out there doing work for the good of man. It's not. Apple is a corporation just like any other. It just happens to make good products.

What dummy believed that about Apple? Is anyone here that stupid? Most of the posts I see here illustrate the same greed that they blame Apple with.
 

Nice link, very sanctimonious of you. ....koala, isn't there a church you can go to today if you are new to the forum yet are here hell-bent on preaching to grown people? Is this the "holier-than-though, self-righteous forum for prospective sainthood"?

Geez... There is a BIG difference between stealing & dishonest practice, and going overboard to the point where you're unrealistically doing everything you can to make sure you or no one else gets any breaks or advantages financially. Why even look for sales, just pay full retail and feel good you are helping the economy then as a good samaritan. People are merely talking about which vendors legally don't charge tax in their state. If your moral fiber cannot stomach that why do you post or read here?
 
I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed with Apple's Black Friday Sale. Neither the scope nor the depth of it. They don't even offer a discount on the MacPro! And $101 off the MacBook. Not impressive. It is more and more obvious to me that Apple just doesn't get it. Other secondary vendors can sell for less that Apple? this just shows that Apple is gouging for all they can get.

I have no doubt most of their customer base is unfazed by Apple's attitude. I will probably get skewered by a few fanboys for my opinion. I haven't been too complimentary of Apple lately, but they just seem to be very non-customer friendly these days. Their computers have been overpriced for more than three years now and they seem absolutely unwilling to lower their prices.

Apple should be offering their 15" MacBook Pro for $1700 or less during this sale. But they don't even cut the price one cent. They have a monopoly right now because of their great OS. Their machines are also top-notch. But other vendors can make similar quality machines (I am not saying Apple's equal though) for much much less. This will be over one day for Apple. It's a shame to me that Apple refuses to budge one bit just because they don't have to. There is more to good business than simply charging the highest price you can force people to pay. There is also a matter of goodwill among your customers. Apple has a lot of very loyal customers because they make the best computers available. But these customers are limited in number.

I am just disappointed that Apple seems so unappreciative of their customers. Go ahead and rake me over the coals fanboys.
Go look up the definition of monopoly in the dictionary.
 
Okay. Since you asked. It's amazing that aapl has been able to stay in business this long and actually do fairly well without your (and others here) guidance. But I do hope such myopia isn't too contagious. Aapl charges what the product is worth, and the market validates that. As far as being "unappreciative of their [sic] customers", it shows far less appreciation for customers (and dumb business planning) to have a big sale. That doesn't reward customers, it burns customers who buy year round.

Thank you sir, may I have another?! :eek:
 
Mac Connection Rebate Problem

I just looked at the Mac Connection rebate, and the terms of the rebate state that full manufacturer's price must be paid for the rebate to qualify, yet all the Apple products are discounted. This requirement is printed in red.

I have no idea whether they will actually send a rebate anyway, but rebates in general make me nervous, and ones will written terms that automatically deny the rebate make me even more nervous.
 
Keep on thinking that.... I'm sure Apple with post a HUGE loss this quarter because they didn't cut prices to your liking...

"Indeed"...Apple is probably the ONLY IT company in the world today with very positive results, despite the financial bottomless pit that people like Alan Greenspan and Ben Shalom Bernanke put the US in right now.
 
Apple does realise there is a recession? Does $51 -$100 really make a difference for you guys in the US when purchasing an item which isn't a must have? Is it a deal breaker if you're thinking of making a purchase for xmas?

I agree. The discounts at the Apple store are not significant, especially on the basic iMac. It will be interesting to see how Apple does this holiday season.
 
I agree. The discounts at the Apple store are not significant, especially on the basic iMac. It will be interesting to see how Apple does this holiday season.

They will do just fine. I know many are waiting for them to post some bad results so that they can say I told you so and how Apple are a bunch of arrogant pricks.
 
I agree. The discounts at the Apple store are not significant, especially on the basic iMac. It will be interesting to see how Apple does this holiday season.

And when they do better than everyone else selling computers does, should we expect to see all the whiners back here admitting they were wrong?
 
OMG, who sits there and lists everything they bought all year on their tax returns? I guess you guys would also go the bank and give the teller a $100 bill if you happen to find one on the street somewhere too.

This could go on and on, but I was talking about normal practice. Where have you been in all the forums and discussions (including these) online for many years now where people constantly talk about which is the best deal without tax? You are either brand new or spend hours/day policing the shopping tips forums calling so many people criminals. I guess half of America is going to jail too!

Well, since you did ask...I am one of those people that lists all the items I bought online on my tax return if I wasn't charged sales tax by the vendor at the time of purchase. I simply print each invoice to a pdf and save it in a folder for that year. Do I like doing this? No, I do not. However, use tax is the law of the land here in Massachusetts and in many other locations as well.

I am not ignorant to the fact that many people do not pay this use tax, including some dear friends and family, but I am not going to use that as justification for breaking the law myself.
 
And on what economic indicator are you basing this assumption?

That's just the thing - how one company does is not dictated by ANY economic indicator. That's why everyone seems to be so crazy pessimistic these days - you hear about all the economic indicators which are *so* bad, and you think the whole world must have stopped all work. But the fact is, the economy is currently in a slight recession (which will almost certainly get worse) which is resulting in economic activity contracting less than 1%. Yes, that's right, 99% of all economic activity is still going on as planned.

Apple will do just fine because they have a good product that the world wants to buy, at nearly any price. The VAST majority of the USA still has the same buying power that they did 6 months ago, and an even greater percentage of the market segment that Apple targets is doing just dandy. Our stock portfolios are down but those of us who have lived more than 7 years understand that stock portfolios go up and they go down, but over the long run they go reliably higher.

So stop panicking and actually go take a look at an Apple store and tell us all how they are doing. I can tell you the Apple store in Clarendon VA is busy as all get out this morning, how's that for an "economic indicator"?
 
Hmmm..I'm not surprise about the sale price for black friday. It'd be decades until Apple decide to lower the price up to 15% or maybe never.....
 
MacConnection Order

I placed an order earlier this morning for a 2.5Ghz MBP from MacConnection. I've purchased a MacBook from MacMall and a first gen MBP from Amazon in the past.

MacConnection called me to confirm my order, and then proceeded to grill me about my employer, my work phone number, and my work email address. I initially was willing to confirm some information, but then stopped when I realized that they were expecting me to call or email them from my office to confirm my order. Apparently, this is part of their security process when the person placing the order uses a cell phone as a primary contact number. Like a lot of people, I don't have a landline anymore. When I refused, citing the fact that I was out of the office, and that on principle I wasn't going to involve my company information in this transaction, they said they'd have to "research and call me back." Apparently verifying billing/shipping address with the credit card company is not enough for them.

So, just a warning to folks out there who are purchasing from MacConnection and who only have a cellular phone, you may get less of a smooth transaction than you bargained for. I'm not sure it was worth the $50 savings from MacMall now.

Update:
MacConnection just called back after calling my employer. Although I gave them the name, I am very unhappy that they went to these lengths to verify who I am. I was asked to provide a specific piece of information from the voicemail, which I begrudgingly did. I should have canceled my order, but the cheap bastard in me winced when thinking of that $50. I guess I sold my privacy for that $50.
 
Apple does realise there is a recession? Does $51 -$100 really make a difference for you guys in the US when purchasing an item which isn't a must have? Is it a deal breaker if you're thinking of making a purchase for xmas?

In the UK a £60 drop in price on a £900 laptop is not worth very much to me and I wouldn't think to others either, but correct me if I am wrong. I'm not in a dire need for a new machine but I'm just making the point.
Recession? What? A $100 is a huge difference to me, anyway, weather there is a recession or not.
 
Hi,

Does anyone know what Apple's online store actually charges for sales tax? Does it charge sales tax for the state you live in? I'm at the checkout stage for a $1120 13" 2.0GHz MacBook (Federal Employee + Black Friday discount) and it says:

Estimated tax: $56
NOTE: The sales tax listed on the checkout page is only an estimate. The final total sales tax will be reflected on your invoice and will include state and local sales taxes, as well as any applicable rebates or fees.


Thanks!

YOUR state tax, not someone else's. They have a huge set of calculators to figure where you live. (Something to do with zip codes ...)
 
That's just the thing - how one company does is not dictated by ANY economic indicator. That's why everyone seems to be so crazy pessimistic these days - you hear about all the economic indicators which are *so* bad, and you think the whole world must have stopped all work. But the fact is, the economy is currently in a slight recession (which will almost certainly get worse) which is resulting in economic activity contracting less than 1%. Yes, that's right, 99% of all economic activity is still going on as planned.

Apple will do just fine because they have a good product that the world wants to buy, at nearly any price. The VAST majority of the USA still has the same buying power that they did 6 months ago, and an even greater percentage of the market segment that Apple targets is doing just dandy. Our stock portfolios are down but those of us who have lived more than 7 years understand that stock portfolios go up and they go down, but over the long run they go reliably higher.

So stop panicking and actually go take a look at an Apple store and tell us all how they are doing. I can tell you the Apple store in Clarendon VA is busy as all get out this morning, how's that for an "economic indicator"?

Wow, this is one of the most simplistic and myopic analyses of the current economic environment that I have seen in some time. A good example of why we will continue to be mired in this disaster for some time to come.

In your more than seven years on this earth, please tell me the last time you saw an environment such as this? Unless you are around 90 years old the answer is never.

As for your indicator, anecdotal reports of crowds in a store are not something I would take any comfort in whatsoever.
 
Arn,

You might also want to note that if you have access to the EPP program through your employer your discounts count on top of the black friday discount in the online store. It's a pretty negligible difference for a lot of companies, but it is there nonetheless.
 
... Apparently verifying billing/shipping address with the credit card company is not enough for them. ...

Imagine your cell is stolen. What kind of personal junk do you have on that thing? The thieves order a Mac, get asked a bunch of questions, something doesn't check out and voila! No sale.

No landline? Get used to the grilling.
 
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