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Apple should just buy whatsapp, and improve its uptime, and integrate in facetime calling and simple VOIP.
 
Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't exactly want to broadcast the times I'm outright ignoring peoples messages :p

Common misconception with BBM by MANY people.

For those of you that have a BB, if "John" sends you a BBM message, and you want to know what he said, without going into his message (which will effectively tell him you read it), you can open a new chat window with someone else (ie: Sally) and without saying or doing anything in the new message window with Sally, BBM will update in that screen "John says: hey want to go see a movie.

This way you can see the message, and determine if you want to reply to it, or ignore it, and the person who sent it to you will never see that it has been read.

Saved me many of times with my 9700 and annoying people!
 
you could just enable chat history..
then when you get a message you "end chat" without even opening it.. then just go to history and there is the entire message.

Common misconception with BBM by MANY people.

For those of you that have a BB, if "John" sends you a BBM message, and you want to know what he said, without going into his message (which will effectively tell him you read it), you can open a new chat window with someone else (ie: Sally) and without saying or doing anything in the new message window with Sally, BBM will update in that screen "John says: hey want to go see a movie.

This way you can see the message, and determine if you want to reply to it, or ignore it, and the person who sent it to you will never see that it has been read.

Saved me many of times with my 9700 and annoying people!
 
you could just enable chat history..
then when you get a message you "end chat" without even opening it.. then just go to history and there is the entire message.

You iPhone ppl still don't get it.
Lets say I send a message to Ellen F.
Firstly, my screen will display a check mark when the msg is sent.
Then, a "D" of delivery receipt.
Lastly, when Ellen reads it, the message status on my screen will be updated to "R"

Ellen can take a look at the main BBM screen and see the message but it won't update as Read until she actually opens the chat window. rust0r is right by saying that he could see the message without sending the "read" update.

I have never used Kik but I heard that is kinda what it does (did).

Cheers,
 
you could just enable chat history..
then when you get a message you "end chat" without even opening it.. then just go to history and there is the entire message.

Doesn't really work in that way.

KIK is balls, me and several other friends tried it (BB and iPhone users), 2 of the BB users had to uninstall it because it was crashing constantly. One message my keyboard just disappeared and I had to restart my iP4, it froze CONSTANTLY. This was all over the course of like the first day or so of testing it.

Whatsapp has a much better implementation of BBM features.
 
This would be a really stupid move for RIM. The main reason my friends get a Blackberry over an iPhone or any other smartphone is BBM...

I really can't see this happening.
 
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what exactly are the benefits that BBM provides over regular texting? If I have a lot of texts included with my cellular plan, do I have a reason to use BBM instead? I hear a lot of BB users say they LOVE their BBM, so I'm curious what exactly it is. I don't unserstand.
 
For everyone who has never used BBM or had a significant amount of friends with BBM I will do my best:

I see many smart phone users who have never touched BBM simply outlaying its features and comparing it to texts. On paper it looks as though it's advantages aren't that great and aren't anything substantial over texting; "so you see when the person gets the message, so what".

It is just an environment that is created by BBM, it's sort of like your own little MSN/ICQ/AIM. I use to BBM all the time, full out conversations, etc, now that I switched to iP4, I barely text 20% of the people I use to BBM with. Basically, to me, the difference is, BBM is a little less personal, you can have a BBM conversation with someone you wouldn't normally go out of your way with to compose a text message, etc. Conversations can be more of a "shoot the s***" nature than purpose driven the way I find most texting to be.

I have an iP4, I have any amount of texts I need included in my plan, yet I still don't find myself conversing anything like I use to when I had my BB and BBM. BBM, a physical keyboard (type so much faster), and the two convenience side keys are the only things I really MISS about my Bold2 9700

You cannot compare the two on paper until you experience active BBM use.
 
I used BBM primarily for group chatting. Since most of my friends have switched to iPhones we have tested many of the BBM clones to use as our group chat application. Between WhatsAp, Kik, PingChat and GroupMe we have discovered that Beluga works best. It has a robust interface, fast reliable push and it even has a web browser portal, so you can stay in communication on the web if you are home or in the office etc.
 
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what exactly are the benefits that BBM provides over regular texting? If I have a lot of texts included with my cellular plan, do I have a reason to use BBM instead? I hear a lot of BB users say they LOVE their BBM, so I'm curious what exactly it is. I don't unserstand.

Group chat rooms and file sharing, no charge for texting, automatic and easily integrated push notifcation, profile customization, instant push message status, integration into the Blackberry's message preview whereby you can see the content of an incoming text or other message at the bottom of the window (I think I'm hazy on that one).

In short: BBM = the ****. The only thing that would make it better would be if you didn't have to use the PIN number, but I actually kind of like that since you don't have every person who has your phone number automatically send you messages that they can see the status of if you read or not (unless you give them your PIN)...
 
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I'd love this. Only thing I miss about my BlackBerry.
 
You cannot compare the two on paper until you experience active BBM use.

This is the hallmark of good software. It's not the feature list that is important, it is the experience it creates.
 
This is the hallmark of good software. It's not the feature list that is important, it is the experience it creates.

Exactly, intangible product offering that creates a sense of value that you can't describe.
 
Common misconception with BBM by MANY people.

For those of you that have a BB, if "John" sends you a BBM message, and you want to know what he said, without going into his message (which will effectively tell him you read it), you can open a new chat window with someone else (ie: Sally) and without saying or doing anything in the new message window with Sally, BBM will update in that screen "John says: hey want to go see a movie.

This way you can see the message, and determine if you want to reply to it, or ignore it, and the person who sent it to you will never see that it has been read.

Saved me many of times with my 9700 and annoying people!

Quite the process..

You could just go into your messages tab and see the message without viewing. Or if you have the chat up, you can hit 'end' and it will still mark as unread.
 
The only arguments my BBM-loving friends make for the service are that it's faster and you can tell if the other person read your message.

Texting is fast enough for me, and I don't want people to know when I'm ignoring them. So. No thanks.

Exactly! I was a BB user for a while and I have no problem with NOT having BBM.
 
Bbm

okay let me get this straight blackberry dosnt want ios and androids to have bbm but ios lets blackberry have almost all of our apps such as whatsapp, Kik, Live Profile ect...

:) Agree or Disagree :(
 
okay let me get this straight blackberry dosnt want ios and androids to have bbm but ios lets blackberry have almost all of our apps such as whatsapp, Kik, Live Profile ect...

:) Agree or Disagree :(

Those apps dont belong to Apple, they belong to third party developers who submit them to the App store, and to the android market, and who ever else they want to.

You won't see Apple give iMovie to Blackberry or Android users

Agree or Disagree :)
 
okay let me get this straight blackberry dosnt want ios and androids to have bbm but ios lets blackberry have almost all of our apps such as whatsapp, Kik, Live Profile ect...

:) Agree or Disagree :(
You mean one company doesn't want to give their proprietary software which runs on their proprietary network away and another company can't control what other platform 3rd parties run their apps on? I don't see the question there ;)
 
Out of my friends, it seems the only good thing a blackberry is for is for BBM.. This is definitely going to decrease the point of having a blackberry now.

I agree. Seems like BBM is the one thing that Blackberry has that keeps it's customers. With it being available on multiple OSes I see lots of customers jumping ship. Don't see it happening.
 
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