Moto and Blackberry had already gotten into it and I believe a cross licensing deal was in place allowing Moto to use blackberry style keyboards.
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BlackBerry Sues Typo Again Over Second-Generation iPhone Keyboard Case
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Moto and Blackberry had already gotten into it and I believe a cross licensing deal was in place allowing Moto to use blackberry style keyboards.
If BlackBerry falls in the tech world and no one is around to hear it, does anyone really care?
No, because you can create shadow companies, build a few houses, sell them, close the company, open a new one and move on. Unless you regulate that, you will never know who is building the house. Market will not fix cheaters. With the big bucks in construction it would be a good way of getting a lot of revenue.
Absolutely, but inspections are regulated for a reason. Because inspectors might cheat, and there's a lot of interest in that.
Yeah sure.
Your desire to remove government's regulations does not let me live in peace, it actually worries me a lot.
First of all, accusing of stealing is quite offensive. Are you calling me a thief? I guess you don't know what libel is.
Second, I gather you haven't stepped in libraries in a while. The internet will never replace libraries. Internet transformed them, but it won't replace them. There's a big difference between information (internet) and knowledge (libraries). You will notice that library use actually increased.I guess I will tell all the tens of thousands patrons that use thousands of library services to just leave.
Please let your PD and FD that they should not rescue you or help you in any way, including stopping the idiot that runs with red lights and one day might hit your car.
how in any way did this address, or even have a sensible response to what I wrote in response to you where you questioned why Moto had a similar keyboard to BBRY.
they won the 1st lawsuit, so chances are pretty high that they will win again.
so... yea.... next question?
And let inventors starve while companies make millions out of their inventions.
Well, you might want that until you maybe invent something that could/would gain you a pile of cash. Then I bet you'd want to protect it
But I hear you...it seems all the companies are infringing on each other.
Good for BB to go after them. It is a complete rip off.
Plus, hey, how else is BB going to make some money. Seems like not many are buying their devices so at least they're fighting for something.
Cheers,
Keebler
When your company's management sucks, you have no competitive products, and your company is generally seen as a big failure, naturally the next step is to just sue people.
I just googled blackberry keyboard (since I've never owned one) and I see a unique feature of the blackberry keyboard is the curve. This Typo keyboard is not curved; thus I would say they are significantly different. Another significant difference is the number of keys on both sides of the space bar - Blackberry has two and the typo has three. Another significant difference is the placement of the 2nd row of keys are offset so that the "A" key is not directly beneath the "Q" key. I believe these two styles are significantly different and the lawsuit is frivolous.
Clearly there's something more to it if enough people looking at it think of BlackBerry keyboard as one of the first thoughts, not an HTC one or something like that. So while there might be some differences, it seems that there are more than enough similarities for people to associate BlackBerry over anything else or nothing else.
That's been the case with their first one, as to whether or not that's the case with the second one (at least legally speaking) remains to be seen.
Ok, but ...
That's irrelevant. Just giving examples of their mindset. The Constitution party is generally full of religious conservatives who want government to be limited to specifically performing the duties outlined in the U.S. Constitution. By contrast, the Libertarian party has plenty of people who are self-proclaimed atheists, agnostics, or simply consider themselves "spiritual", but not following an organized religion. I think Libertarians would completely support freedom of religion, but not necessarily take a stance that religion has a place in government -- such as an insistence that some of one's basic rights are granted by a higher-power.
That's irrelevant. Just giving examples of their mindset. The Constitution party is generally full of religious conservatives who want government to be limited to specifically performing the duties outlined in the U.S. Constitution. By contrast, the Libertarian party has plenty of people who are self-proclaimed atheists, agnostics, or simply consider themselves "spiritual", but not following an organized religion. I think Libertarians would completely support freedom of religion, but not necessarily take a stance that religion has a place in government -- such as an insistence that some of one's basic rights are granted by a higher-power.
Guess Blackberry has to bring in revenue in alternative ways since they don't do it selling phones anymore.
There's nothing special about the Blackberry keyboard design. If there was something special about it, I'd be on their side.
It's a generic keyboard design used by tons of cell phone manufacturers!
The only reason Blackberry wants to sue in this case is because it's about the only advantage Blackberry has left to survive over the iPhone and even this won't work.
So basically, Blackberry thinks that any tiny keyboard that uses black keys with white letters is their intellectual property? Is that the gist of it? Because I don't see anything in V2 that looks like ANYTHING *BUT* basic black keys with white text on them that fit in the assigned space. PRIOR ART examples alone should rid them of the case. I'm using a black logitech keyboard right now. So it's black instead of white, grey or tan and that makes it UNIQUE? Bullcrap. Any judge with two eyes on his face could see what a load of nonsense it is. Back lighting is new? Again, prior art. A keyboard is a keyboard. It's nothing new under the sun. This case should be appealed to a higher court and thrown out and the judge should be considered to be potentially disbarred, IMO for obvious bias. To be honest, I suspect bribery. There is no other possibility for his ruling since a plain black keyboard is a fracking plain black keyboard and not under any kind of patent protection since black keyboards have existed for ages, small or not.
Except that there are phones with keyboards that you look at and don't think anything in particular about them, and then there are others where you think of BlackBerry fairly quickly. That's the difference.
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Ah, yes, conspiracy theories, those can be used to "explain"/"support" pretty much any side of anything and everything that anyone can imagine.
Yes, that was sarcasm. RIM screwed the pooch and sat on their aging business model when iPhone was released in 2007. They have no one to blame but themselves for staying stagnant while Apple and Android phones eroded their marketshare to the point of causing their ultimate demise. No one has sympathy for them.
Okay, so you brought up a point that Moto and BB may have partnered together on a licened deal for keypad IP. That's great. What you didn't address was my greater point that there are/were still many other companies with qwerty-style keypads on their smartphones very similar the BBs. (Moto perhaps the lone exception?) I don't remember all the companies that RIM had tried suing at the time. Were there others forced into licensing deals?
I fail to see how suspecting corruption in public officials (sadly a pretty common occurrence these days) is a conspiracy theory, especially given the obvious PRIOR ART of a black keyboard. The idea a patent was broken is absurd. No patent should ever be granted for prior art designs and keyboards have existed for many decades. Almost every major phone maker used small keyboards in past designs. There is nothing unique there. The first design may have resembled Blackberry's keyboards (a copyright violation at best, not something that should be patentable). The second design is abstract as they get. Blackberry needs to get over it and compete (something their business strategy has failed utterly to do driving them to near bankruptcy; suing won't help them make more sales). Sadly, the court system in general has entertained endless patent trolling showing that patents have been granted that are too broad, too abstract and too generic, having no UNIQUE qualities at all.
They should just copy the Treo keyboard, which I liked way better than the Blackberry. There's a new owner for the Palm brand but no one owns the old designs I think.
