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Believe me. It is not worth the trouble. Use it as an iPod touch and move on.
 
Another thing too is that if you sell it on eBay like I suggested and use the money from that combined with the $140 you were going to put towards unlocking it, you would likely have enough money to buy a clean one anyway. I'd probably do that instead. Just would hate for you to throw your money away.
 
Sadly, although the OP may think different, if a contract isn't completed and paid for, the iPhone in essence is a 'stolen' phone.

The OP is the innocent here, but the seller didn't complete his obligation on a subsidized iPhone, it is the property of the service provider.

Being technical, I would 100% agree with what you've stated. But I know that when it comes to the stolen and lost database that companies are obligated to work together submit to, the EIP defaulted phones aren't apart of that. But, this thread wasn't about that. Basically my original post had questions

1. What is the cheapest unlock service for tmobile phones that would deal with eip defaulted phones(some do, some don't. There is a reason for this)

2. If I exchanged this phone, would tmobile be updated with the new IMEI, therefore blocking it?

3. I tried a verizon sim and it said not compatible or something like that. Was this because the phone is certainly locked to tmobile only, or because it was a CDMA phone could be the reason.


In this entire thread, EVERY person has been off topic. Being helpful and telling me you believe having it unlocked, it would still be blocked on other carriers is fine. But to make WVERY post about this is nonsense. I appreciate the help, but I've stated my stance on it, and it is NOT what I was asking.

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Another thing too is that if you sell it on eBay like I suggested and use the money from that combined with the $140 you were going to put towards unlocking it, you would likely have enough money to buy a clean one anyway. I'd probably do that instead. Just would hate for you to throw your money away.

I would do that, but eBay kills me. Not only the fees, but they give buyers so much leeway, even if I was upfront about the phone, they could still return it weeks later and paypal and eBay I'm sure would grant them their refun regardless of what I think. I've seen some crazy **** dealing with eBay smh
 
Being technical, I would 100% agree with what you've stated. But I know that when it comes to the stolen and lost database that companies are obligated to work together submit to, the EIP defaulted phones aren't apart of that. But, this thread wasn't about that. Basically my original post had questions

1. What is the cheapest unlock service for tmobile phones that would deal with eip defaulted phones(some do, some don't. There is a reason for this)

2. If I exchanged this phone, would tmobile be updated with the new IMEI, therefore blocking it?

3. I tried a verizon sim and it said not compatible or something like that. Was this because the phone is certainly locked to tmobile only, or because it was a CDMA phone could be the reason.


In this entire thread, EVERY person has been off topic. Being helpful and telling me you believe having it unlocked, it would still be blocked on other carriers is fine. But to make WVERY post about this is nonsense. I appreciate the help, but I've stated my stance on it, and it is NOT what I was asking.
Verizon SIM would only work in a Verizon phone, whether the phone you have is locked or unlocked (same would apply to trying a Sprint SIM).
 
Yes, I wouldnt waste more money on it.
Sell it as is and cut your losses, its useless.




Also to answer some stuff above.
Apple can see in the system that the iphone is blacklisted. You're not the only one that ever thought about something like that.
All carrier properties, lock, unlock, blocked status all get transferred to the replacement during service when the IMEI of both phones get entered into their system.
About a paid service I don't think there is one that removes blacklisted devices. Only IMEI unlocks but if blacklisted here it will only work outside the US so still no good to you.
About the verizon sim it will not activate it and no other sim will activate it since its locked to Tmobile.
Again even if you paid for IMEI unlock its still blacklisted.

Although a repetition of some of the "info" here, you actually answered the questions I asked!

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Verizon SIM would only work in a Verizon phone, whether the phone you have is locked or unlocked (same would apply to trying a Sprint SIM).

Oh, ok. Thanks.
Here's another one
I've read sooooo much conflicting info. I'm sure most know the REAL answer now. If you buy a phone from tmobile, is it locked to tmobile?
Some say yes, some say no. Some say if you buy the tmobile from apple it's unlocked, some say it isn't.
 
It's locked if you buy it from T-Mobile. Unlocked if you buy it from Apple.

As far as selling it should you choose to do that, I suggested eBay because it's just about the only place where you'll be able to get decent value for it. Most on Craigslist won't touch it. I've had good experiences when selling these type of phones there as long as you're upfront with the buyer that it's blocked in your description. It's usually someone on the West Coast who goes around buying tons of these blocked phones on eBay from what I've seen when I've sold them. Most likely to ship them overseas.
 
It's locked if you buy it from T-Mobile. Unlocked if you buy it from Apple.

As far as selling it should you choose to do that, I suggested eBay because it's just about the only place where you'll be able to get decent value for it. Most on Craigslist won't touch it. I've had good experiences when selling these type of phones there as long as you're upfront with the buyer that it's blocked in your description. It's usually someone on the West Coast who goes around buying tons of these blocked phones on eBay from what I've seen when I've sold them. Most likely to ship them overseas.
Thx for the clarification
 
Dont Listen to them

I do not know anyone on here but the guy that says he worked or works for t-mobile is very hard to believe because my sister use to works at t mobile and for non payment there is no list none other then your debt to the company. Given anyone else information on your debt is illegal but anyways I had t mobile with my iPhone 5s and had a few months left on my contract but i hated being with t mobile they cheat you alot and poor service so i wanted to go to att. I stopped paying my bill and racked up 400.00 in debt which is finally paid off but that was way after i went to att. I unlocked my phone order a sim card and been having my phone work since. So yes i can tell you it does work. My son who was also on my t mobile contact with a galaxy 5s also got unlocked and went to att so tell me how it would never work???? Yeah stop telling people thing that aer untrue just because you can't help. I had to pay 100 to unlock my iphone and 70 for my sons galaxy at a lock cell phone shop..
 
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I do not know anyone on here but the guy that says he worked or works for t-mobile is very hard to believe because my sister use to works at t mobile and for non payment there is no list none other then your debt to the company. Given anyone else information on your debt is illegal but anyways I had t mobile with my iPhone 5s and had a few months left on my contract but i hated being with t mobile they cheat you alot and poor service so i wanted to go to att. I stopped paying my bill and racked up 400.00 in debt which is finally paid off but that was way after i went to att. I unlocked my phone order a sim card and been having my phone work since. So yes i can tell you it does work. My son who was also on my t mobile contact with a galaxy 5s also got unlocked and went to att so tell me how it would never work???? Yeah stop telling people thing that aer untrue just because you can't help. I had to pay 100 to unlock my iphone and 70 for my sons galaxy at a lock cell phone shop..


So u had your phones unlocked by a 3rd party cuz u wanted to switch to att before having to pay what u owe on your phones. Gotcha.

Not saying it'll never work but if u never paid your debt T-Mobile could blacklist your phone even if u had it unlocked.
 
I'm going through sort of the same issue now. The new iPhone I purchased had a clean IMEI but a few weeks later it got Blacklisted as stolen. From what I've gathered so far there isn't much you can do. List it on eBay as stated above being honest about it or use it as a ipod. I've read about some people who used those iPhone swaps services on eBay but I don't know anything about it. Next time I'll buy new from the store. Lesson learned for myself. Good luck...
 
It was packaged new in the box with seal on it. And yes new to me.

Got it. Sealed in the box "new" electronics have always struck me as the riskiest purchases. Even if the seller lets you open it up, power it up and activate it before you hand over the cash, there is the risk that it's stolen. It's probably a very small risk, but it's also hard to eliminate.
 
Got it. Sealed in the box "new" electronics have always struck me as the riskiest purchases. Even if the seller lets you open it up, power it up and activate it before you hand over the cash, there is the risk that it's stolen. It's probably a very small risk, but it's also hard to eliminate.

This is true and what I learned.
 
[QUO TE=T r ue fan31;20539384]So u had your phones unlocked by a 3rd party cuz u wanted to switch to att before having to pay what u owe on your phones. Gotcha.

Not saying it'll never work but if u never paid your debt T-Mobile could blacklist your phone even if u had it unlocked.[/QUOTE]

your arrogant response notneeded because that is not what I said at all is it. I said I left T Mobile because I wasstill under contract and I got tired of them cheating me and poor service and I also think that I said I paid off the debt. It would be wise of you to read what I said before responding
 
Well because the phone is locked to tmobile it will not work on other carriers unless you unlock it. Once phone is unlocked it will work fine on any carrier except for tmobile. I used my tmobile iphone 6 on verizon without an issue so it should work. I had my tmobile iphone replaced in apple store and after I placed my verizon simcard the phone was unlocked and it would work with att and verizon t-mobile simcard. Restoring the phone in itunes will relock the phone to t-mobile.
 
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Got it. Sealed in the box "new" electronics have always struck me as the riskiest purchases. Even if the seller lets you open it up, power it up and activate it before you hand over the cash, there is the risk that it's stolen. It's probably a very small risk, but it's also hard to eliminate.


There is a risk that is stolen period. Risk has nothing to do with it being sealed.
 
Blacklisted T-mobile iPhone options?

[QUO TE=T r ue fan31;20539384]So u had your phones unlocked by a 3rd party cuz u wanted to switch to att before having to pay what u owe on your phones. Gotcha.



Not saying it'll never work but if u never paid your debt T-Mobile could blacklist your phone even if u had it unlocked.



your arrogant response notneeded because that is not what I said at all is it. I said I left T Mobile because I wasstill under contract and I got tired of them cheating me and poor service and I also think that I said I paid off the debt. It would be wise of you to read what I said before responding[/QUOTE]


I read what u said. U left T-Mobile before your contract is up. So with your phone being locked to T-Mobile because they wouldn't unlock it if you still owe on the phone or you're still under contract, you unlocked it using a 3rd party. Then u paid your debt so T-Mobile wouldn't blacklist your phone.

If u didn't pay your debt T-Mobile can blacklist your phone. Exactly what I said in my previous post. You stopped paying your bill which accrued to 400. But since you had a 3rd party unlock it u went to att, then you finally paid off your debt. I'm telling you if you didn't pay that debt don't be surprised if your phone all a sudden stops working.
 
Also, So, I had an old verizon sim card from an iPhone 4 or 4s.
The Verizon iP4s is a 3G phone and does not use a SIM card on Verizon. The SIM card that was in it is only for international GSM use and won't work on domestic GSM carriers like Tmobile or ATT.

To activate an iP4s on Verizon you need an account and then you call to add the IMEI of the device to your line and then dial *288 from the phone to complete the activation.
 
Buying a phone and not paying for it is exactly the same thing as stealing it.
Not legally. Buying a phone on credit and not making all of the payments on it may hurt your credit, but it is not theft under the law. In your mind, perhaps the 2 are equal but under the law they are not. If they were the same legally, TMobile would be pursuing charges, but they can't so instead they blacklist the phone and send collections after the person.

When you don't pay your credit card bill and get turned over to collections, you have not stolen all of the things you charged on the card.

Now selling a phone that you know is financed and that you know you have not completed your payments on w/o disclosing that to the buyer is fraud, which is a crime.
 
This is why I decided to do the next program. It's getting to risky to sell or buy phones to/from other people. I think im just going to pay monthly then at then end of a year upgrade directly from the Apple Store, just to many scams and possibility for lost.
 
Not legally. Buying a phone on credit and not making all of the payments on it may hurt your credit, but it is not theft under the law. In your mind, perhaps the 2 are equal but under the law they are not. If they were the same legally, TMobile would be pursuing charges, but they can't so instead they blacklist the phone and send collections after the person.

When you don't pay your credit card bill and get turned over to collections, you have not stolen all of the things you charged on the card.

Now selling a phone that you know is financed and that you know you have not completed your payments on w/o disclosing that to the buyer is fraud, which is a crime.
I am not talking about legally, I am talking about morally.
 
I am not talking about legally, I am talking about morally.
Most people don't agree that failing to pay off a credit balance is the moral equivalent of stealing. If they did, we would still have debtors prisons in this country. Our founding fathers saw fit to rid our country of the morally repugnant debtors prisons.

By your "morality", we should get rid of the banktruptcy system and just throw those people in jail if they can't pay their bills.
 
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