Is the fact that the results won't show on the watch the part that no longer infringes, or is Apple's new calculation process the part that solves the issue?
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Blood Oxygen Feature Finally Returning to Apple Watch in the US
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Looks like you're gonna have to upgrade to get it back!
Not just processing on your phone, you can only view the results on your phone as well
It's the same as the ECG. Measure on watch, view results on phone...
So basically Apple DID breach the patent as it has had to change how the feature works to make it legal. Well at least they came up with a workaround. Personally I've never found the feature to be very useful as it is wildly inaccurate anyway.
Meh. I think we should take what we can get.
As an athlete myself, I see value in having SpO2 data processed on Healthfit to help calculate my ATL/CTL and overall fatigue which occurs on the phone itself.
Having it viewable on the watch is not a critical requirement for some.
I don't think there was any genuine doubt that Apple did. Every single US court ruled against them.
I don't watch it for the accuracy, I watch it for the change in reporting. If it measures with the same method each time and produces the same result (right or wrong) I can still see the trend. You're right though, there are more accurate ways to take the measurement but none I am willing to wear on a daily basis.
Good. I had read that Masimo wanted a licensing fee of over $100 per watch. I’m all for people making money off their inventions, but don’t claim you’re there for the good of the world and then try something so exorbitant.
Reading on here on the various stories about it you would believe Apple did nothing wrong at all and didn't break any patent... hence my comment on it. Plenty of people think Apple never copies anything.
That is factually incorrect.
Apple-Masimo Judge Declares Mistrial in Trade-Secret Theft Fight
Apple Inc. and Masimo Corp. failed to persuade a jury to reach a unanimous verdict in a trial where the medical-devices company claimed a blood-oxygen sensor in the Apple Watch was developed using misappropriated trade secrets.
www.bloomberg.com
Apple wins $250 from Masimo in watch patent trial | TechCrunch
A federal jury ruled Friday that Masimo smartwatches infringed Apple patents, but Apple isn’t getting a big payday. Bloomberg Law reports that the company
techcrunch.com
That is very true. You can see if a trend changes so you do have some kind of indication of an issue. And I agree it is a pretty useful tool to wear on your wrist. I have one and will upgrade to an Ultra 3 if it gets the blood pressure monitoring that is rumoured.
That is factually incorrect.
Apple-Masimo Judge Declares Mistrial in Trade-Secret Theft Fight
Apple Inc. and Masimo Corp. failed to persuade a jury to reach a unanimous verdict in a trial where the medical-devices company claimed a blood-oxygen sensor in the Apple Watch was developed using misappropriated trade secrets.
Apple wins $250 from Masimo in watch patent trial | TechCrunch
A federal jury ruled Friday that Masimo smartwatches infringed Apple patents, but Apple isn’t getting a big payday. Bloomberg Law reports that the company
No it's not. They did win some cases, but they lost on a specific patent that went all to the way the ITC, which agreed that they had violated them, and kept the ban in place.
“Every single U.S. court ruled against them” remains an untrue statement. The import ban is from the International Trade Commission. The patent dispute is still winding its way through the courts.
I was excited at first for this and then read that you have to get the info off your phone. So no longer excited as I was about this.
Typical Apple to get hopes up and then dash them with a half assed measure. Cheapskates.
Will be skipping out on anything from them this year as it’s always the same bread crumbing tactic.
Typical Apple to get hopes up and then dash them with a half assed measure. Cheapskates.
Will be skipping out on anything from them this year as it’s always the same bread crumbing tactic.
That's nice.
They still violated patents according to the the top ITC court, and still refuse to pay royalties therefore resulting in this half-a** solution.
Not that I particularly care; I gave up on the Apple Watch a few months back and returned to Garmin. I need about 90% more fitness features, and 90% less smartwatch features before coming back.
If it’s true you can not look it up on the watch after on device processing has occurred that kind of sucks for connivence but it is what it is. I have one I can use on my finger to get a better reading but that defeats the purpose of having the results easily available without doing much so this is a work around I can live with as long as the data isn’t delayed by hours or days. I almost always have my phone close by so I’m not that concerned even if the only way I can see it is on my phone.
Does anyone know if it's actually accurate? My mom had breathing issues and has blood oxygen of around 82% according to professional equipment, however I have measured it with an Apple Watch and it said it was around 94-96%...
Hmm. So those of us that have Apple Watch Ultras, Series 7-9, etc with the original blood oxygen feature enabled still have the better version of the feature. This is a workaround that I guess removes a reason to not upgrade, but it’s still not the real feature.
Let’s see what Apple Watch Ultra 3 brings to see if it is a worthy upgrade for me - I am guessing not
Let’s see what Apple Watch Ultra 3 brings to see if it is a worthy upgrade for me - I am guessing not
Apple didn’t want this Watch thing to be another Qualcomm fiasco so they was going to either find a Workaround, settle, or wait until 2028 when the patent would expire.
It's as accurate as it can be within the limitations of pulse oximetry.
Apple has documentation on this.
Fingertip pulse oximeter is the more common clinical way to measure blood oxygen saturation, and you're right that it isn't convenient for everyday ongoing use.
It is not intended for medical use and probably not accurate under certain circumstances.
So, for example and this is a guess, the Watch may not have been validated for use in unhealthy people.
In general, too, blood oxygen oximeters may have accuracy issues on darker pigmented people.