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Great! I just hope that with the first gen Mac Pro with Apple Silicon, Apple does dual Apple Silicon + Intel.

Why would they do that? If you want to run x86_64 applications, buy an Intel machine. It would be absurdly expensive, terrible from a software standpoint and just slow down the transition.

Sounds crazy, I know. But a lot of us pros are still relying on native x86 to get our professional work done. I understand that the transition should eventually result in a Mac Pro with only Apple Silicon, but I think for the first gen version, it should have dual CPUs.
This will happen sooner rather than later. The fastest way to get applications ported to Apple Silicon is to eliminate “transition devices” like the one you have suggested.
 
Calling it now, the new "smaller" Mac Pro is gonna be the return of the cube. It was always Steve's wet dream to make a computer that's a silent cube, and now Apple Silicon makes it possible to make one that won't fry itself to death.

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Whoa, go easy on the ellipses.

Pros need the tools to be available though, in my case a lot of the tools that are use are limited to Windows and will never be ported to Mac - of any flavour. therefore I fully rely on being able to run Win10 in a VM and with the M1 chip that is currently not possible. hence I cannot stay with Apple - which I prefer for the rest of my workflow.
True dat! And many music softwares are still not able to work on MAC OS Catalina say nothing of Big Sur.
And Big Sur tracks you :)
 
Great news overall, bummer news for me - I have to buy a new computer in 2020 to replace my 2015 27" iMac.

Do I get the last Intel iMac?
Or the new shiny M1 Mac Mini + Big Monitor?

Both are an improvement, but which will let me stick with my 5-year upgrade plan?
Sell the iMac an buy the $699 mini
 
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Considering the current design is able to run fanless, I would say they have headroom for increasing cores... a lot more headroom than the competition anyways...
The 2020 Intel MBA would have been able to run fanless too if Apple had implemented the same high quality heatsink and heat spreader like they did with the M1, instead of deliberately gimping it so that the cooling does almost nothing.
 
They’ve already beaten Intel, they’re doing 16 cores to beat themselves and provide a more significant delta front the current 8 core machines.

i know that these machines will beat intel and they’ll do so badly, but I wonder where exactly you improve year over year when you already have 16 cores and the next node shrink is years away. And when intel finally gets down to 7nm, i wonder then whether apple’s lead will diminish to nothing
 
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Sounds great, but am I the only one here who thinks that needing that many cores to surpass current performance is a bit worrying for the future? The current Macbook Pro 16" has eight cores, right? They're doing a 16-core to beat Intel? I suppose it doesn't matter how you get that higher performance as long as you get there, but I don't know, this doesn't seem like a scalable architecture.
It will be interesting for sure to see which way Apple goes but they usually play the long game so
I imagine it will be something that they can build on.
 
Calling it now, the new "smaller" Mac Pro is gonna be the return of the cube. It was always Steve's wet dream to make a computer that's a silent cube, and now Apple Silicon makes it possible to make one that won't fry itself to death.

Probably not . If take the current Mac Pro and chop out the second MPX bay that is about a third of the height . ( that is two , double wide slots . It is a substantial amount of space/volume. ) . That is a very straight ‘chop’ on the design . It is a duplicated element in the current design ; two bays . One of the three forward facing fans disappear but rest of the top and bottom design can stand the primarily the same . Apple would have to move speaker and probably memory but is a straightforward adjustment . Prolly would loose multiple 3.5 driver aftermarket bracket ,but 2.5 would/could work if apple provisions sata connectors .

Prune off slots 5-7 and that is three more slot widths. That would get them to approximately half as tall. No extra exotic design needed at all . MPX modules could go into old and new systems . Etc.

Slots aren’t just for GPUs . More internal storage , afterburner , audio capture/ generation , video capture generation . Etc . Pretty much tetrun to blocking several of those if try to go back to using Thunderbolt asan everything crutch . many things it works , but substantial amount of stuff does not .( PCI-e v4 SSD ) .

If the half Mac Pro is the only replacement for Intel Mac Pro series, then even more so little need to deviate back to pragmatically “didn’t work“ designs .
 
I’m starting to feel good about my decision to upgrade 2019 Macs. I should get a few years out of them and by then the M2X or M3X will be absolutely mind blowing and most apps will be ported and little issues will be worked out. Gives them time for proper redesigns as well.
 
I am so ***** excited for this revolution going on.

My ultimate dream in all this is an M chip with a GPU that gives NVIDIA a run for its money. I currently have a MacBook Pro for everything but gaming, and a big ass Alienware laptop for gaming. What an expensive waste! I'd so love to game on a MacBook and sell the Alienware!
 
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Funnily enough, Intel's stock price has gone up since the M1 was released, but Apple's has hardly budged.

Blackberry also continued to sell sell for a while after the first iPhone was released. The market takes time to react to such stuff, especially when Apple’s full slate of Macs and processors are not out yet.

In the long run though, one bets against Apple to their own detriment. That is one of the few constants in this world.
 
I'm with AMD. 64 cores. 128 threads.

 
The minute they’ve got an Intel x86-64 version of Windows 10 running on a Mac powered by Apple Silicone. I’ll be thrilled to turn over my money. There are only a handful of Windows apps I need to run and they have very low overhead so here’s to hoping Apple, Parallels, VMWare, CrossOver, etc can find a solution. It’s not like I’m expecting to play resource intensive games but I do need some kind of solution or Apple Silicone Macs aren’t an option which would suck.
 
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