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Bloomberg Confirms September iPhone 5 Launch, Hi-Res iPad 3?

captain kaos said:
I'm kind of thinking the 1st one. If they redesign then the long delay for the white iphone 4 would have been in vain. Unless apple are happy to walk away from it (white iphone).
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If they keep the current iPhone 4 around for another year and make it the $99 phone... then all that time wasn't wasted.

Apple got 2 years worth of production out of the 3GS... and 3 years out of that particular plastic case (starting with the 3G)

Or... maybe Apple really did get freaked out by antennagate... and they wanna discard everything about that design.

I guess we'll find out in September(?)

Whatever happens... I'm on Verizon and I want to know something. I'd buy a Verizon iPhone 4 tomorrow but I wanna see how different the next iPhone is gonna be.
 
Michael Scrip said:
If they keep the current iPhone 4 around for another year and make it the $99 phone... then all that time wasn't wasted.

Apple got 2 years worth of production out of the 3GS... and 3 years out of that particular plastic case (starting with the 3G)

Or... maybe Apple really did get freaked out by antennagate... and they wanna discard everything about that design.

I guess we'll find out in September(?)

Whatever happens... I'm on Verizon and I want to know something. I'd buy a Verizon iPhone 4 tomorrow but I wanna see how different the next iPhone is gonna be.
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Good point re using this design as a cheaper iphone. Im the same, im looking to get back into the fold with an iphone but im waiting to see what the next one is.
 
There's probably a Retina Display iPad in some lab in Cupertino right now. A production quality version might cost $2000. There's probably an LTE iPhone in a nearby lab with a batttery life of three hours.

Let's face it: Apple prototypes far more designs than what reaches the market.

My guess is that 95-98% of Apple rumors about unannounced product end up being false.

This hi-res iPad 3 is far away.

It is likely that the fifth-generation iPhone will look similar to the iPhone 4 and largely comprise of incremental internal upgrades (CPU, GPU, storage space, cellular network speeds, improved camera, etc.). To expect an entirely new handset design is ludicrous.
 
I'm gonna be able to sign up for my first iPhone plan very soon. I'm at a lost to decide to hold off for a while and wait for the iPhone 5 or just go ahead with the iPhone 4. My concern is that if I do get the iPhone 4, it will become obsolete when the iPhone 5 is released. Also, the iPhone 4 is already a year old. It would be strange for Apple to not release an iPhone 5 in July as per the yearly refresh norm. Now, if Apple instead, releases the iPhone 5 in September as per recent incoming rumors, it would be awkward for me since if I sign up for my 20-month contract now and I would have to miss out on the iPhone 5. :confused:
 
apple,

you know you have a great product.

just deliver on crafting a great still/video camera (you have alluded to this before. it will represent the product); try to make it a little bit inexpensive; make it much sturdier and mute the whiners by removing the 'target' lines of the antenna design.

think about products for the game changers of the future. this will be your legacy, your children. if something is not part of your skillset, apple, go ask the 'pro' or the kids. swallow your pride and ask. it will lead to better products and better customer experience. it is not about being the best; we are all in this together. :)
 
I doubt something like Bloomberg is going to know/disclose this kind of information. Sounds like a classic case of circular rumours.

Of course iPad 3 will be retina - it's got to be. But it wouldn't make sense to release it (at much greater cost to Apple) until some time next year. The iPad 2 is selling so well and none of the competition is even close.

If cost of the display hadn't been an issue then iPad 2 would have had a retina display, just as iPad 1 would have had a camera. But they will be keen to keep the same aggressive price point.
 
I wonder if Jobs tells different dates and different specs to different groups of people on campus so he'll know who ratted.
 
If all they do is bump up the internal specs, they can't call it iPhone 5.

I love my iPhone 4, almost a year old now, and would hate for the new iPhone to look identical, I actually want it to look different!

Not that the iPhone is ugly! - Its easily the best build quality I have ever had on a mobile, I just want something idifferent!
 
Bryan839 said:
If all they do is bump up the internal specs, they can't call it iPhone 5.

I love my iPhone 4, almost a year old now, and would hate for the new iPhone to look identical, I actually want it to look different!

Not that the iPhone is ugly! - Its easily the best build quality I have ever had on a mobile, I just want something idifferent!
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The 3G and 3GS were visually identical... so Apple certainly isn't afraid to re-use a design. But... I would be shocked if it's called anything but the iPhone 5... here's my take:

iPhone 5 and iOS 5... this changes everything... for the 5th time.​

I can almost hear the TV commercials now. 5 is such a strong number... maybe use Beethoven's 5th in the commercial? :)

I think Apple will start focusing on its software this time around... and iOS 5 is powerful. The name iPhone 4S will drag it down.

Apple will show people that an A5-equipped dual-core iPhone running iOS 5 is worthy of the name iPhone 5... even if it looks like an iPhone 4.

The 3G to 3GS transition was fine in 2009. But a 4 to 4S won't cut it today... especially with all the other phones on the market...
 
Isn't this the same bloomberg that in late Feburary said their "sources" confirmed that the iPad 2 had production delays and was being pushed back from an April to a June release?

Why yes, yes they were.

All in the name of stock price manipulation on the heels of a $10 up move in the price of AAPL stock.

These guys are so obvious.
 
lilo777 said:
As a fellow engineer, I woul expect higher appreciation for specs from you :) Can you imagine Apple engineers designing, say, iPhone without specs? I can't. I'd say that it's all about specs. It's true that specs and advertising (i.e. technical and consumer/PR languages) make for an interesting mix. Sometimes, companies do try to emphasize a single spec to "prove" that their product is better. Computer companies are not alone there. One just need to look at car and truck commercials. Still, it does not mean that specs do not matter. At all. And yes, Apple being in charge of most/many components in the product design this helps creating more balanced products. On the other hand, seemingly Apple is trying to abuse this mantra by excessively cutting the costs (an specs) to the extent where it hurts the products. 256MB RAM in
iPad 1 is a good example. Not having USB 3.0, BluRay support are two other well known examples.
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Your total lack of any understanding of Apple products and their raison d'être leads me to assume you are perhaps a train engineer?
 
kiljoy616 said:
Retina will be sweet, but on the A5 you will loose the gaming experience that makes the iPad 2 even better. To get any benefit for Retina on iPad 3 it will be another almost year before anything is made for it. You can crank up the spec but if the software is way behind then all you get is another Android. :rolleyes:
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I don't follow you. The iPad 2 has 25% more pixels than a retina iPhone. With the same A5, the iPhone 5 should still run smoother than the Pad 2.

How are the bets on RAM? iPhone 5 / iPad 3 with 1GB, anyone?
 
cactus33 said:
A low end (and presumably low priced) iPhone ! <3 couldn't be a better thing for me!
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And then, when you realize that you are still paying roughly $2000 for the service, $100 off the purchase price doesn't really mean all that much.

GL
 
arn said:
1.0 - Little Bear
2.0 - Big Bear
2.1 - Sugar Bowl
3.0 - KirkVail
3.1 - NorthVail
4.0 - ApexVail
4.1 - BakerVail
4.2 - JasperVail
4.3 - DurangoVail
5.0 - TellurideVail

from the ipsw files.
arn
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Hmmm, ski resorts as codenames - that seems to ring a bell ;)
 
kiljoy616 said:
Still don't have the problem. Unless I try to choke the life out of the phone. :rolleyes:
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that whole thing was media driven... if you hold the htc thunderbolt, the signal decreases... i suspect it happens with a lot, if not all phones (i just happened to test it out with the TB)... and the iphone's reception is just fine... wifes iphone gets way better reception than my droid actually.
 
rockametrics said:
I have to whole heartedly agree. If such a minor release they could have released it earlier than september. They probably could have had iOS 5 out in June as well if they really wanted too. There has to be another reason for this.
Please no tear drop iPhone!!!
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...Or maybe it's just that the iPhone 4 is doing fine, so they extended its life time to save on R&D (in the long run): Release one iPhone in 2010 (June), another at the end of 2011(September), none during 2012, one in 2013(February?)...

Disclaimer: This doesn't assume that the September iPhone 5 will have the exact same specs as if it were released in June. I expect they'll be better.
 
rockametrics said:
I have to whole heartedly agree. If such a minor release they could have released it earlier than september. They probably could have had iOS 5 out in June as well if they really wanted too. There has to be another reason for this.
Please no tear drop iPhone!!!
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I hope you are right... but there are some folks who think the reason they waited was part of a deal with verizon, to give the iphone4 more shelf life... and then there's the whole white version too...

I don't necessarily agree with that but that's what some people argue is the case...
 
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