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Blu-ray Licensing to Get Easier and Cheaper

gkarris said:
And downloaded purchased media isn't????

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The point is: BR hasn't shown its marginal value. Nobody cares about it, unless you have a gigantic screen to count the pixels...and I won't pay extra for a movie that can't copied to other media support devices unless DVDs really disappear from the market, which won't happen anytime soon.

Blu-Ray is DEAD. Just like Microsoft.
 
I don't really believe Steve Jobs response about Bluray being a 'Bag of Hurt' in reality they are hoping consumers will use iTunes for High Def content.

Remember when the MacBook Air was released and they put up the reasons for no longer needing an Optical drive. One of the reasons was iTunes is a replacement for DVD movies. And since then they have begun offering High Def movies (Although highly compressed and nowhere as good as what Bluray offers).

Apple will drag there feet on this one until it no longer makes sense or they axe Optical media entirely. Just my opinion mind you.

I personally hope for Bluray sooner rather then later. I just purchased one for my PC today.
 
Quu said:
I don't really believe Steve Jobs response about Bluray being a 'Bag of Hurt' in reality they are hoping consumers will use iTunes for High Def content.

Remember when the MacBook Air was released and they put up the reasons for no longer needing an Optical drive. One of the reasons was iTunes is a replacement for DVD movies. And since then they have begun offering High Def movies (Although highly compressed and nowhere as good as what Bluray offers).

Apple will drag there feet on this one until it no longer makes sense or they axe Optical media entirely. Just my opinion mind you.

I personally hope for Bluray sooner rather then later. I just purchased one for my PC today.
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I agree entirely. When Steve said it was a "bag of hurt" he meant a bag of hurt for the iTunes store.

There was a time when Apple liked to be on the leading edge of technology. But now there is a conflict of interest between the iTunes store and the hardware division - and it is the consumer (those who want a blu-ray option) that suffers.
 
If this results in Apple adopting the format then I say three cheers!
Now can I have my new Mac Mini/TV Server with built-in BR drive.
Thank you :D
 
We can only hope.

It probably won't be a year until we see Blu-ray being facilitated by Mac.
 
BJWanlund said:
There's also an environmental impact if Apple puts Blu-Ray drives in their computers: Blu-ray movies use less plastic for its packaging and its actual media. Less plastic = lower carbon footprint.

BJ
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Less plastic than what? Downloads take up no plastic. As for DVDs there was no reason to sell them in oblong shaped boxes in the first place, they are circular :p

For apps like logic pro, most of the packaging is to house the manuals.
 
BRLawyer said:
Blu-Ray is a borndead standard and this move just proves it. They are desperate to sell DRM-ridden discs to people that could not care less about a marginal increase in image quality.
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Marginal increase? I dunno.. I notice a pretty big difference between DVD and Blu-Ray - I just got a new 46" HDTV and Blu-Ray player. I'm not one of those people who think DVD is horrible now that I have a Blu-Ray player, but there is significantly more detail in the Blu-Ray picture even compared to an 'upscaled' DVD.

Then again...I know people who insisted the picture difference between VHS and DVD was hardly noticable...
 
If Apple does start selling Blu-ray players, I hope that they are much, much faster than the current crop of players from Sony, etc. These things are slow as molasses when loading a movie or accessing features.
 
kastenbrust said:
people will just download them legally from the iTunes store or Steam. Downloading and streaming are the future :)
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That is if you live in the US or Europe. But if you live elsewhere in the world, there are still people on dial up. And huge countries that still don't have their iTunes Store (like Brazil, the 10th largest economy in the world). So, while you are not thinking really globally, I guess Apple might be. :)
 
BRLawyer said:
Blu-Ray is a borndead standard and this move just proves it. They are desperate to sell DRM-ridden discs to people that could not care less about a marginal increase in image quality.
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In regards to the image quality, I disagree with you. A simple side by side comparison of a TV show or movie in Standard Definition and High Definition dramatically showcases the significant quality difference in image and picture. Perhaps your definition of a "marginal increase" is different from mine but in my view, 480i vs. 1080p or even 720p is a huge increase in image quality.

Not to mention audio quality in Blu-ray is superior to DVD or other formats (ie iTunes) but that's another discussion entirely.
 
Apple computers with Blu-ray drives will need to have their specs upgraded.

Data throughput will need to be increased. Also most important, the LED displays should be 10-bit with 10-bit processors so as to avoid color banding (billions of colors).

What's the point of having Blu-ray if the hardware isn't up to snuff?
 
kastenbrust said:
I totally didn't think about that, but yeah thats right, not something that occurred to me before.

I do think with constantly increasing internet speeds (by 2020 the average speed will be 32MB) then people will be able to download blu-ray movies from the itunes store in about 15 mins and we wont bother with solid media. We will download it on our Macbooks, and then wirelessly stream it to the Apple TV connected to our 40" High Def TV's.



Not with 32MB broadband, people will just download them legally from the iTunes store or Steam. Downloading and streaming are the future :)
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I LMAO when I see people that keep saying that High Speed Internet will increasing in speed.. But you forget one thing, as the speed get faster more and more will start putting caps on your bandwidth usage.. Do not believe me check out Comcast they doing right now and other IPS are following right be hide them.. So the more you stream and download the more you use up your bandwidth.. So if you think just because you have speed up to 32MMB you will have a cap on your bandwidth usage.. All that speed is not going to help you out when you use up you bandwidth usage just to download 50GB a movie... So do not come crying in the future when you used up your bandwidth because of streaming and downloading 50GB HD movies...
 
BRLawyer said:
Blu-Ray is a borndead standard and this move just proves it. They are desperate to sell DRM-ridden discs to people that could not care less about a marginal increase in image quality.
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And we can tell that this is the case because they've improved the licensing for Blu-Ray, right? Yeah, whatever. Your logic doesn't tie into this article at all. Blu-Ray is doing well and growing, and nothing is going to replace it as the next generation standard for HD video now--not until something much better comes along the way may years down the road.

I wouldn't call the increase in quality marginal if you've got a nice television. Especially if you're watching something from Pixar, or a nature film like Planet Earth.
 
Jetson said:
Apple computers with Blu-ray drives will need to have their specs upgraded.

Data throughput will need to be increased. Also most important, the LED displays should be 10-bit with 10-bit processors so as to avoid color banding (billions of colors).

What's the point of having Blu-ray if the hardware isn't up to snuff?
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The 9400m, Core 2 Duo CPU's, DDR3 RAM and SATA300 I/O have more then enough data throughput for Bluray.

Regarding the 10-bit well we can all wish but you don't really need 10-bit for Bluray 8-bit is enough. You would have to have a very good eye to tell the difference unless your looking at a perfect gradient of colours at like a million shades.

My point is, step 1: Just add Bluray the LCD's aren't an issue that needs to be corrected for Bluray. That should be corrected just in general.
 
BRLawyer said:
The point is: BR hasn't shown its marginal value. Nobody cares about it, unless you have a gigantic screen to count the pixels...and I won't pay extra for a movie that can't copied to other media support devices unless DVDs really disappear from the market, which won't happen anytime soon.

Blu-Ray is DEAD. Just like Microsoft.
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How's that Apple kool-aid taste?

As if you didn't already put your ignorance up on display enough with your speech about Blu-ray, but then you had to go and polish it with that last little tid-bit about it being dead JUST LIKE MICROSOFT.

The stupidity of your post is so great I can only assume you're really trying to be a troll.

And don't give me that 'up-converted DVD is as good as HD (BD, HDDVD, whatever)' crap.
 
mattster16 said:
Then again...I know people who insisted the picture difference between VHS and DVD was hardly noticable...
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That all depends. The people who train themselves to notice the differences probably aren't actually watching the movie....they just keep staring at the picture telling everybody else how clear it is.
 
Blu-Ray is DEAD!

Besides, Apple doesn't like disc media, it competes with iTunes, so we'll NEVER see a Blu-Ray drive on a Mac.
 
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