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Blu-Ray Wins.

Sometimes technology changes too quick.

People have only just got around to buying DVD's - and Ive only just got a superdrive. Now in comes a bouncing new format, which lets face it, are just going to be utter confusion for the non-tech people out there. I wonder how they'll integrate existing DVD's and new film releases for existing players?

As for Apple choosing the winning side, congrats! They tactically waited though until it was pretty much safe to do so no?
 
Platform said:
Will blue-ray drives require a lot of connection speed. eg: they need FW800 or :confused:
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Connection speed wont be an issue except for playing DVDs (ie streaming data). Just like now, you CAN use a 500GB hard drive over USB 1.1, but it will be much much much slower than over FW800.
 
Maxiseller said:
Sometimes technology changes too quick.

People have only just got around to buying DVD's - and Ive only just got a superdrive. Now in comes a bouncing new format, which lets face it, are just going to be utter confusion for the non-tech people out there. I wonder how they'll integrate existing DVD's and new film releases for existing players?
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Oh, don't get me started. It's opinions like that which held the thing up for so damn long. I've been waiting for HD movies since the mid 80s. Sony demoed HDTVs back then and it has been red tape arse-dragging ever since, with compromise formats like DVD that had to work with existing TVs, even the very old ones. HD movies are looooooong overdue.
 
I own about 7 DVDs to my name, and use my SuperDrive 90% of the time for backing up/copying data to DVD, not for burning movies. I chuckle at all my friends who have built up hundreds of DVDs in their collection, who will now have to "update their collection" to HD and spend hundreds of more $$$ - just like they did with all those hundreds of VHS tapes they had, an investment which is now collecting dust. Then there are people who buy those 200+ disc spindles of DVDs and burn every movie known to man for some reason. I just don't get it, but to each his own...

Personally, I never went too crazy with DVDs because I knew HD DVDs were coming eventually. That being said, I probably won't go too crazy with buying up HD DVDs either though, as there will always be that "next big thing". :cool:
 
~Shard~ said:
I own about 7 DVDs to my name, and use my SuperDrive 90% of the time for backing up/copying data to DVD, not for burning movies. I chuckle at all my friends who have built up hundreds of DVDs in their collection, who will now have to "update their collection" to HD and spend hundreds of more $$$ - just like they did with all those hundreds of VHS tapes they had, an investment which is now collecting dust. Then there are people who buy those 200+ disc spindles of DVDs and burn every movie known to man for some reason. I just don't get it, but to each his own...

Personally, I never went too crazy with DVDs because I knew HD DVDs were coming eventually. That being said, I probably won't go too crazy with buying up HD DVDs either though, as there will always be that "next big thing". :cool:
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You sound like my roommate, who "survived" with only a 80GB hard drive on college campus.

I say survive b/c he's a big anime watcher, and he also dubs...so you can imagine the bandwidth going through. His soln?

"I delete what I don't need."

Of course he just caved in when he brought another 80GB internal and 40GB external from home. Oh well, at least the theory is sound hahah.
 
Mav451 said:
You sound like my roommate, who "survived" with only a 80GB hard drive on college campus.

I say survive b/c he's a big anime watcher, and he also dubs...so you can imagine the bandwidth going through. His soln?

"I delete what I don't need."

Of course he just caved in when he brought another 80GB internal and 40GB external from home. Oh well, at least the theory is sound hahah.
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Call me a bit of a minimalist then! ;) Yeah, I have a 160 GB HD in my iMac, and when I download a ton of stuff, I'll just dump it to DVD for archiving if I don't absolutely need it on my machine. Or, if it's a TV show, movie, whatever that I'm done with once I watch it once, yeah, I'll just delete it - what's the point of keeping it around, am I ever going to need it again?

I do take up a lot of HD space though with my audio editing, so it's all good. :cool:
 
I own 36 DVDs in total. And about half of them are "junk" movies I get for christmases and birthdays. I'm pretty minimalistic when it comes to DVD buying, I only buy DVDs for things I'm fanatic about (Whedon - Buffy/Angel/FireFly) and really cool, rarely seen movies so I can show it off to others (Equilibrium, Donnie Darko and Cube) and a few of my favorites (Pulp Fiction, The Godfather, Friday the 13th series). Beyond that, are DVDs I don't care about. I too laugh at friends who have hundreds, and buy two or three every time they go out.Even movies they've never seen before :rolleyes:
 
StarbucksSam said:
It's surprising that they came to a compromise - I thought they'd fight to the death. How mature of them. Corporate maturity. LOL. Let's hear what THE DONALD has to say.
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I like how the article seems like a compromise has been made, and that the technology was offered by both companies when in reality, Toshiba got their asses handed to them and Sony won. Sony probably already has the software for Blu Ray, but if it makes Toshiba feel better about losing out, then so be it. :D
 
Whilst we're comparing sizes, I'd say I have about 50 DVD's, I've been buying them for about 4 years - I never really had a VHS collection, as my first part-time job and the advent of DVD seemed to come at the same time!

I'll continue buying dvds - and I wont through them away either, when HD formats like Blu-Ray take over I'll start buying those, but as long as everything's backwards compatible then I'll be happy.

I've only just (like in the last week) gotten my first Superdrive - I burned my first iDVD two days ago (oh so easy) and just backed up all my purchased music onto one disc (2 GB of purchased music.... :eek: ) and am just backing up old tv shows like 24 Season 4 to free up room on my ext. drive!

Shame I won't be able to get any more tv shows though :(
 
I guess my hopes for a unified format got dashed. But this is such a big surprise! :rolleyes:
 
crazzyeddie said:
Connection speed wont be an issue except for playing DVDs (ie streaming data). Just like now, you CAN use a 500GB hard drive over USB 1.1, but it will be much much much slower than over FW800.
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I wonder if FW800 would be enough to handle HD from a DVD. I bet it is, as my PB can (just barely) play HD DivX (1408x792 :eek: ) from a FW800 drive (choppily, but freeing RAM and CPU time for VLC helps) decently.
 
Counterfit said:
I wonder if FW800 would be enough to handle HD from a DVD. I bet it is, as my PB can (just barely) play HD DivX (1408x792 :eek: ) from a FW800 drive (choppily, but freeing RAM and CPU time for VLC helps) decently.
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That is your PB choking, not FW800. HD transport streams off the eyetv 500 are ~8gb per hour; thats less than 3 megabytes (not megabits) a second.

I'm pretty sure FW400 can handle that data rate ;)
 
Gods this whole new DVD format thingy is confusing and emotional. Since I won't be able to afford it when it is finally released, I think I'm gonna sit this one out... Please wake me when the new players can burn entire DVDs in four minutes.

*Gazes over at Betamax sitting in its box on a storage shelf*
 
~Shard~ said:
So even if this has been agreed upon, when will we effectively see these things in the marketplace as far as Joe Consumer is concerned?
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It hasn't been agreed upon at all. It has been denied already. You would know had you read the entire thread. :p :D Not that you're the only one though.

No wonder you people have such a high post count, I should stop reading the entire threads too and just post like mad. :D
 
This division is going to shake some companies to the core, I think. Overall, I think Bluray WILL win. Why? It holds more information, PERIOD. Try having a dual sided dual layer Bluray disc. That's almost as much data storage as both my internal HD's combined!
 
I don't want blueray. I'd like it without the case, thats why I like HD DVD (or whatever.)


I'm not sure what blueray would mean for us laptop users.

EDIT:Oh and for the record. Apple chose both formats, both blueray and HD DVD use the new quicktime codec. So apple wins either way.
 

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Diatribe said:
It hasn't been agreed upon at all. It has been denied already. You would know had you read the entire thread. :p :D Not that you're the only one though.

No wonder you people have such a high post count, I should stop reading the entire threads too and just post like mad. :D
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Where did this come from all of a sudden? :confused: :p ;)
 
Diatribe said:
I don't know, just noticed that a lot of people didn't read the entire thread but rather just posted, which happens a lot nowadays. Just picked you, could have been anyone. :p
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You guys really need to get a room. :eek: :D :rolleyes: :D
 
blaskillet4 said:
I don't want blueray. I'd like it without the case, thats why I like HD DVD (or whatever.)


I'm not sure what blueray would mean for us laptop users.

EDIT:Oh and for the record. Apple chose both formats, both blueray and HD DVD use the new quicktime codec. So apple wins either way.
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My understanding is that the case has been discarded from the Blu-Ray discs. It now looks like a regular DVD.
 
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