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Originally posted by ~Shard~
Just wanted to correct you on a couple items. Firstly, the Sega Dreamcasts discs were never meant to become an adopted format, it was proprietary.

And secondly, mini-discs. Mini-discs are huge in the UK, and elsewhere in the world. I know many, many people who use them, so I wouldn't exactly categorize it as a "lost format". All the others though I'd pretty much agree with you on...


Friends of mine bought mini-disc, but have since sold them in favour of an ipod and CD/MP3 players. Mini-disc players are still very expencive.

I know the GD ROM was only for the DC, but now that the DC is defunct (lives on in the hearts of the few) it is a lost format. Also I believe it reads from the outside in? I could be wrong.

Bring on BluRay DVD's, I heard about them a while back but nothing since, until now.
 
Originally posted by manitoubalck
Just an unfounded thought. Wont UV lasers damage the plastic discs?

I wouldn't think so, for a couple of reasons; the data is actualy on an aluminum sheet sandwiched by the plastic, and the particular UV they would use wouldnt necessarily have to be a very energetic (extremely short, and more damaging) wavelength
 
Originally posted by manitoubalck
Some losing and lost formats:
Laser Disc: developer, Better audo than DVD's?
Giga-byte Disc (GD ROM): Sega Dreamcast developed by Toshiba
Mini-Disc: Developed by Sony.
VCD: developer? wide spread success in Asia, little else where
SACD, DVD-A: developers? Next gen music, hasen't taken off yet.
DVD RAM: Developer? one of the early contenders on the race for a re-writable DVD media.
of course Beta: Sony, much better quaity than VHS
JAZ: iomega, 2GB cartrages
Clink: iomega, 40MB cartrages.

can anyone add to this list?
Also what is DVDR+-/RW losing the battle to?

IIRR, it's the Iomega Click drive.. i have the sample they gave out at the Comdex show... i think they changed the name though.
 
It would probably be a good idea for Apple to adopt it quickly, beacause if they don't then people will be able to use that as an excuse not to buy a mac, since they could get one for their PC. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Originally posted by OutThere761
It would probably be a good idea for Apple to adopt it quickly, beacause if they don't then people will be able to use that as an excuse not to buy a mac, since they could get one for their PC. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.


I think that's a BAD reason. If they are going to be pioneers in this BlueRay technology, they have to come up with a great reason or marketing angle to really excite and convice everyone that it's a must. Adopting it just for the sake of being the first kid on the block, doesn't cut it.

~e
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Yup. Happens every time. :)
Rower

I'm always a bit annoyed when using that company's name it gets "filtered"; makes me feel a bit guilty of doing something wrong... any chance the obscenity filter could make an exception for the full name of the company (shouldn't cause any harm unless those trying to avoid the filter start using that full name as a euphemism for the internal word.)

Wow, that's pretty hard to write without using the word(s) in question:p
 
Originally posted by eclipse525
I think that's a BAD reason. If they are going to be pioneers in this BlueRay technology, they have to come up with a great reason or marketing angle to really excite and convice everyone that it's a must. Adopting it just for the sake of being the first kid on the block, doesn't cut it.

~e

There's plenty of convincing reasons

(a) lots more storage room (backup etc)
(b) Apple's trying to move FCP into mainstream film making and broadcast... HD will need this kind of space (...or everyone could be bound to hauling around hard drives)
 
MD-Data did once exist, never caught on. I wish it had.

A cool format that never seemed to go anywhere was Dataplay -- looks like you can still get the discs online, but are there any players on the market?

www.dataplay.com

They're little discs that look like a MiniDisc, but are the size of a QUARTER! They can be double-sided, and hold 250MB per side. If mass-produced and in wide use, they would be cheap as heck. Talk about killer format for tiny electronics!

What was this thread about, again?

edit: Oooh, the Dataplay discs aren't re-writable. BUMMER.
 
Originally posted by legion
There's plenty of convincing reasons

(a) lots more storage room (backup etc)
(b) Apple's trying to move FCP into mainstream film making and broadcast... HD will need this kind of space (...or everyone could be bound to hauling around hard drives)

eclipse525 didn't say there were no good reasons, he said adopting it first for no other reason than adopting it first is not a good reason.

I agree w/your "a" reason, but your "b" reason is pretty weak. DVDs are, and Blueray will be, a format used to deliver the final product. They will not be a standard in post/production. The HD you get at home is a far cry from the HD used to create what you are watching. 1 hour of broadcast quality HD can eat up half a terabyte of space. And there are some very cutting edge cameras, target towards filmmakers, that stream the image straight from the camera into harddrives that require 500gigs for just 45 minutes of recording. So having an optical disc that can hold 20gig isn't going to help out much. ;)

Anyway, in post/production HD is already here, has been for a few years, and FCP supports it.


Lethal
 
Originally posted by legion
Philips was a developer of something with Sony, but I can't remember which product.
I think they were the ones who made the original compact disc (CD).
 
Originally posted by legion
Rower

I'm always a bit annoyed when using that company's name it gets "filtered"; makes me feel a bit guilty of doing something wrong... any chance the obscenity filter could make an exception for the full name of the company (shouldn't cause any harm unless those trying to avoid the filter start using that full name as a euphemism for the internal word.)

Wow, that's pretty hard to write without using the word(s) in question:p

Unfortunately, the word censor can't be that specific, and turning off compound words containing that word would allow a bunch of words through the filter. Sorry.
 
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