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downloaded to give WhatsApp on the desktop a try. Right now I'm at the "Waiting to automatically detect an SMS sent to .." screen.

I'm not really sure if this will work. I already have that number associated with WhatsApp on my phone.

Anybody able to use the same number on iPhone and BlueStacks?

I understand you were just making an example, but...

If I'm at home, why wouldn't I just connect my keyboard to my phone then?

can't hit "send" from the external keyboard, that's one of the reasons for me
 
Example; Whatsapp available on your desktop when you are home or the office and want to use your keyboard to text instead of the phone.

I understand you were just making an example, but...

If I'm at home, why wouldn't I just connect my keyboard to my phone then?
 
If the emulator worked on an iPad it might be useful. Google Maps is far better on Android -- but that's really the only one I'd like to be able to use.
 
downloaded to give WhatsApp on the desktop a try. Right now I'm at the "Waiting to automatically detect an SMS sent to .." screen.

I'm not really sure if this will work. I already have that number associated with WhatsApp on my phone.

Anybody able to use the same number on iPhone and BlueStacks?



can't hit "send" from the external keyboard, that's one of the reasons for me

I already tried it. It won't work. Apparently whatsapp won't work on more then one device at a time. When you activate one the other one stops working.
 
Now even Mac users will be able to see what a huge bloated mess the Android apps are. Brilliant.
 
None of which are truely good reasons.

...to you. Ok, I get that. Then you shouldn't use this simulator. I'm not a salesman trying to get you to use BlueStacks, I'm pointing out what I and others might find useful about it. There is no "wrong".

I buy my phone for its capabilities as a phone. And how would you try out the apps if you can't buy them ? Piracy ? Might as well just pirate them directly to a device that can run them.

The point is, you can try apps without having a device; free apps or lite/freemium versions. So if you hear about a great app on another platform, you can try it out. In what way is that a bad idea?

Both iOS and Android can already stream the display over the air or use HDMI to have their content displayed on a bigger screen. But then again, just use native ways to get "content" on your bigger screen.

And for capturing and recording, and editing, it would be useful to have it directly on a Mac/PC. Perhaps not useful for you, but you aren't everybody. ;)

Hum... I don't even understand what you mean here. iOS/Android are both multi-tasking OSes and you'd be running it on OS X, a multi-tasking OS. What multi-tasking are you open to achieve here that you can't with proper OS X software ?

As in having two apps open and visible at the same time. So, playing a game, and having a video stream in another app. You can't do it that with iOS, and I doubt if you can with Android. Sure, you can with OSX, but this app could let you do more with your existing iOS apps. Again, in what way is that a bad thing?

Both OSes already support physical keyboards. No need to emulate apps on OS X for that. And again, why not just use OS X applications ? What advantage is there to running the software with a physical keyboard if you can get the same tasks done already with OS X software ?

Yes, but you already have a keyboard in your Mac/PC, why buy another one, and have to carry that around too, and batteries for it? Having a physical keyboard (without the awkwardness of carrying around another physical device) could make iOS/Android usage a lot easier.

An repeat after me: iOS/Android apps are not just sad, pathetic imitations of OSX apps. :) If you don't want to use BlueStacks, fine. But don't argue it's of no use to anyone.

The iPad works with a wire coming out of it. You can use apps while it charges. But again, if you're going to sit down on your Mac while your iPad is charging, why limit yourself to iOS/Android applications ? Doesn't even start to make sense...

A very short wire, which means sitting by the power socket or trailing an extension cord to your seat. And, IIRC, the new iPad might stop charging depending on the power draw.
 
Because they can.

Some people build lego versions of the death star...
Some people go to scifi conventions dressed as Spock...
Some people get excited about extreme sport....
Others get to have sex with random strangers on a frequent basis.

One or two people have to settle for making android emulators.
LEGO death star... CHECK
dressed as Spock... CHECK (OK, I was a Bajoran actually)
extreme sports... CHECK (I guess they're cool)
frequent random sex... WORKING ON IT
 
I've been looking forward to this since iPhone 1. ...but with iOS apps. All your information should be available on both devices, at your fingertips, regardless of which device you're on, and the data sync'd between them automatically. Make em show up as Dashboard widgets, I don't care.

Working on an inkpad drawing on the iPad, get back to the office, continue working on it at the desktop and be able to copy parts of it into CAD & Illustrator etc as needed, without going through a lengthy & tedious export & transfer process & winding up with a pile of copies in different places in different formats.

Like what iCloud aspires to do, but can't, until every iOS dev also writes a separate OS X version of their app and builds iCloud support in. Tons of work, not practical, not going to happen.
 
...to you. Ok, I get that. Then you shouldn't use this simulator. I'm not a salesman trying to get you to use BlueStacks, I'm pointing out what I and others might find useful about it. There is no "wrong".

No, but you fail to provide any insight into why you need the keyboards/display streaming/multi-tasking. You just say that enables those things for iOS/Android apps, not what you need the apps for exactly.

That's the point, OS X and Windows have very mature application ecosystems that pretty much cover any computing tasks you could want to perform. What functionality is missing that is found only in iOS/Android apps ?

Why would I use iSSH on my Mac when I have OpenSSH/TightVNC ? Why would I use the Facebook app when I can open a full browser ? Why would I use iOS mail when I have OS X mail.app ?

Etc.. etc..


The point is, you can try apps without having a device; free apps or lite/freemium versions. So if you hear about a great app on another platform, you can try it out. In what way is that a bad idea?

Because it's piracy. This thing has no access to Google Play. You'd still need to pirate the app. So you're saying this is a good piracy tool ? I don't get it. You can't try apps with this unless the developer offers the APK to anyone already.



And for capturing and recording, and editing, it would be useful to have it directly on a Mac/PC. Perhaps not useful for you, but you aren't everybody. ;)

Hum.. HDMI to your video capture card ? What am I missing here ? Not to mention, at least you get to capture, record and edit something that's actually useful, ie, running the app on the device using all the device's capabilities that your Mac doesn't have (accelerometer, GPS, etc..).

As in having two apps open and visible at the same time. So, playing a game, and having a video stream in another app. You can't do it that with iOS, and I doubt if you can with Android. Sure, you can with OSX, but this app could let you do more with your existing iOS apps. Again, in what way is that a bad thing?

What iOS apps do you want to multi-task ? What tasks are you trying to accomplish side by side that requires iOS apps to begin with ? :confused:

That's the whole issue... If I want to see my e-mail while playing a game, I have OS X games and an OS X mail application, I don't need iOS/Android apps for that. I'll just use the OS X equivalents.

That's what as me quite dubious of the utility of this.



Yes, but you already have a keyboard in your Mac/PC, why buy another one, and have to carry that around too, and batteries for it? Having a physical keyboard (without the awkwardness of carrying around another physical device) could make iOS/Android usage a lot easier.

But if you're on your Mac, what iOS/Android app are you looking to use that you can't just use the native Mac counterpart ?

An repeat after me: iOS/Android apps are not just sad, pathetic imitations of OSX apps. :) If you don't want to use BlueStacks, fine. But don't argue it's of no use to anyone.

What app don't you already have on your Mac ? What functionality is missing ? Whatsapp ? iBooks ? Macs have tons of messenging apps and eBook apps.

A very short wire, which means sitting by the power socket or trailing an extension cord to your seat. And, IIRC, the new iPad might stop charging depending on the power draw.

Plug it into your Mac ? You're sitting down on the Mac to use it... for what anyway ?

Again, "using iOS apps" means trying to get a task accomplished. What task requires iOS/Android apps that can't be done with native software or from the browser with a web app already ?

That's the point. When I'm on my Mac, using any of my iPhone applications is the last thing I want to do.
 
Working on an inkpad drawing on the iPad [...] be able to copy parts of it into CAD & Illustrator etc as needed, without going through a lengthy & tedious export & transfer process

Inkpad on iPad supports Dropbox. What's lenghty & tedious about that ? Any sync process would be the same, regardless of the app you use on OS X, you'd have a sync step.

That's why this is a non-solution, If I'm going to sync the device to work on my Mac, I'll then use full-featured Mac software, not limited InkPad for iPad to do vector graphics.
 
wow did people even download it?... you really have to be stupid or have your head in the sand not to see the benefits of cross platform Apps. Regardless if Apps are ready or not, the tech is introduced and software comes after. For an Alpha it is well set up.

The dumbing down of the Apple community by iOS is just rampent
 
I can't wait for the beta version, I will be able to play games with my friends from my computer. I have big hands and it annoys me to play games on my phone. I.E. words with friends and others.
 
Inkpad on iPad supports Dropbox. What's lenghty & tedious about that ? Any sync process would be the same, regardless of the app you use on OS X, you'd have a sync step.

That's why this is a non-solution, If I'm going to sync the device to work on my Mac, I'll then use full-featured Mac software, not limited InkPad for iPad to do vector graphics.


Ok, to focus in on this example,

open ink pad and draw something.
Those bezier lines are stored in .inkpad format, kept locally on your iPad.
Now export a copy to dropbox in .svg format
This copy is no longer linked to what your locally using on iPad.
Now open that .svg in Illustrator, because Inkpad isn't available on OS X.
Now look it over and find which parts didn't import right and redraw them.
Now make a tweak to this shape, and go through all this over again backwards to get that tweak back to your design on your iPad.

vs.

On iPad, open inkpad, draw something.
(sync's via cloud, wifi, or cable)
On OS X, open inkpad, there it is! View or copy/paste as necessary.


Much simpler.

If you're going to carry a MBP and wacom around with you everywhere you go, I'm going to get a lot more done than you are.
 
wow did people even download it?... you really have to be stupid or have your head in the sand not to see the benefits of cross platform Apps. Regardless if Apps are ready or not, the tech is introduced and software comes after. For an Alpha it is well set up.

The dumbing down of the Apple community by iOS is just rampent

Wait, running Android apps on Mac is some kind of advanced feat of computing ? :confused: OS X apps aren't as advanced and anyone not understanding the utility of running Android apps on a Mac is "dumbed down by iOS" ? :rolleyes:
 
Because they can.

Some people build lego versions of the death star...
Some people go to scifi conventions dressed as Spock...
Some people get excited about extreme sport....
Others get to have sex with random strangers on a frequent basis.

One or two people have to settle for making android emulators.

ah ok, but there is no real need for this? i thought i was missing something. :)
 
That's the point, OS X and Windows have very mature application ecosystems that pretty much cover any computing tasks you could want to perform. What functionality is missing that is found only in iOS/Android apps ?

Why would I use iSSH on my Mac when I have OpenSSH/TightVNC ? Why would I use the Facebook app when I can open a full browser ? Why would I use iOS mail when I have OS X mail.app ?

Etc.. etc..

You're working on the flawed assumption that everyone will always want to use an OSX app over its iOS equivalent. That may be true a lot of the time, but it's one hell of a sweeping assertion.

Why would I buy video capture cards or bluetooth keyboards, when a simulator like this could achieve the same thing cheaper? You really are going out of your way to argue it's of no use to anyone, when in truth you're just revealing a strong personal preference.

App would be far more useful than - say - Dashboard widgets, which are integrated prominently into OS X. I'd love to be able to pull up an iOS/Android simulator instead, for a quick gaming session or to use a remote app which isn't available on OS X, or to enter some text into an app which I also have on my mobile device. In what perverse universe can I be "wrong" in that preference?
 
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