Everyone seems to be missing the point. Bluetooth wasn't designed for high data rates and long distances. There is no need for it to evolve to support services like real-time video and such. 802.11g already does that much better than Bluetooth ever will. But 802.11g consumes a lot of power, generates a lot of heat, and requires more physical space. Can you imagine building that into a mouse or a headset? Obviously not. THAT is where Bluetooth comes in.
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If it was 700-800 KBps it would be faster than Firewire2. The spec for Bluetooth indicates it tops off at 1.0 Mbps hence the name 802.15.1. Much slower than even USB but it is wireless which makes an order of magnitude cooler.
edit: Sorry for being redundant. I didn't read all the other posts before I opened my fat mouth.'
I was told that in Japan they have wireless speeds up to 700kbps over cell connections. Not that we'll see anything like that in the US for a long time.
Dan
Actually, 700-800 Kbps is 1000 times slower than Firewire 800, but nice try.
Sorry for the sarcasm, couldn't help it.
Not true. The current implementation of W-CDMA in Japan tops out at 384kbps. There is nothing faster. However, KDDI should be deploying CDMA2000 1xEV-DO soon which will allow for data rates as high as 2.4mbps.
In North America, we can expect to see speeds that high by the end of 2004.
Redezvous with Bluetooth
I know BT is not terribly fast yet, but wouldn't it be cool to auto-discover other BT devices that are rendezvous smart?
You could probably meet people and chat with them without any wires - or share music with someone with a BT enabled iPOD
You could connect to a fax or printer, you could connect to an smtp server to get your mail in/out.
When ithe BT bandwidth improves, then video
goes too...
Just the whole combo of BT + RV enables this realtime discovery and conspiry with people, devices and services. I'm up for that!!
I know BT is not terribly fast yet, but wouldn't it be cool to auto-discover other BT devices that are rendezvous smart?
You could probably meet people and chat with them without any wires - or share music with someone with a BT enabled iPOD
You could connect to a fax or printer, you could connect to an smtp server to get your mail in/out.
When ithe BT bandwidth improves, then video
goes too...
Just the whole combo of BT + RV enables this realtime discovery and conspiry with people, devices and services. I'm up for that!!
Bluetooth Auto from Saab
There are some non-desktop/notebook computer items also taking advantage of bluetooth. Saab had a product video on their web site not too long ago for either the 9-3 or 9-5 demonstrating how it had integrated voice recognition (for the climate control, stereo, navigation system, etc.) with mobile communications - including bluetooth. The implications for this sort of car with a notebook may just be to use it as a large cell-phone, but there may be some nifty possibilities that don't spring to mind...
While I can no longer find the product film - here is a link to a story on the car:
http://www.itsa.org/ITSNEWS.NSF/4e0...c22539d01157b2ba85256c4000437e67?OpenDocument
Then again, maybe its just another device giving off a signal that can be used to track you as you pass by checkpoints - making your car into one big cookie, like a smart tag or EZ Pass. I mention this latter point as I was thinking that while the Wi-Fi 802 wireless networking standard is convenient - I'm sure Starbucks, and every marketing research firm out there, are excited to have an avenue to acquire more information on who uses their stores, when and for how long. Well - if it wasn't one of the wireless standards, I'm sure it would only have been a matter of time before Starbucks created scannable "bonus cards" like the supermarkets and bookstores to induce folks to let them record who bought how much and when by offering a small discount (although a discount is better than having to pay T-Mobile the fee to use the hot spot). I digress.
There are some non-desktop/notebook computer items also taking advantage of bluetooth. Saab had a product video on their web site not too long ago for either the 9-3 or 9-5 demonstrating how it had integrated voice recognition (for the climate control, stereo, navigation system, etc.) with mobile communications - including bluetooth. The implications for this sort of car with a notebook may just be to use it as a large cell-phone, but there may be some nifty possibilities that don't spring to mind...
While I can no longer find the product film - here is a link to a story on the car:
http://www.itsa.org/ITSNEWS.NSF/4e0...c22539d01157b2ba85256c4000437e67?OpenDocument
Then again, maybe its just another device giving off a signal that can be used to track you as you pass by checkpoints - making your car into one big cookie, like a smart tag or EZ Pass. I mention this latter point as I was thinking that while the Wi-Fi 802 wireless networking standard is convenient - I'm sure Starbucks, and every marketing research firm out there, are excited to have an avenue to acquire more information on who uses their stores, when and for how long. Well - if it wasn't one of the wireless standards, I'm sure it would only have been a matter of time before Starbucks created scannable "bonus cards" like the supermarkets and bookstores to induce folks to let them record who bought how much and when by offering a small discount (although a discount is better than having to pay T-Mobile the fee to use the hot spot). I digress.
mac = small bluetooth component
I guess the point that I was missing is that my Mac really isn't a huge component of Bluetooth. It's a convienence issue. It sounds like it's more of a AirPort-ish solution for everything that doesn't have major processing power (cell phones, etc). So in that respect it makes a little more sense to me to have it on a computer.
Regarding "high=speed bluetooth" it seems like a much more worthwhile endeavor to adapt AirPort Extreme into smaller packages / componenets for use to transmit lots of data rather than sit around and wait for BT to get faster.
I guess the point that I was missing is that my Mac really isn't a huge component of Bluetooth. It's a convienence issue. It sounds like it's more of a AirPort-ish solution for everything that doesn't have major processing power (cell phones, etc). So in that respect it makes a little more sense to me to have it on a computer.
Regarding "high=speed bluetooth" it seems like a much more worthwhile endeavor to adapt AirPort Extreme into smaller packages / componenets for use to transmit lots of data rather than sit around and wait for BT to get faster.
t68i
I use a t68i and my laptop. It is great to use the phone for presentations or a remote for iTunes. But it sucks as a modem. 9600 is just too slow even for email when I get a ton of SPAM. You can get it higher if you use a GPRS connection but then the mobile company charges you per mb tranfered. Does anyone make a phone with a faster modem than 9600?
I use a t68i and my laptop. It is great to use the phone for presentations or a remote for iTunes. But it sucks as a modem. 9600 is just too slow even for email when I get a ton of SPAM. You can get it higher if you use a GPRS connection but then the mobile company charges you per mb tranfered. Does anyone make a phone with a faster modem than 9600?
