Bold claim - iPhones are easier to root and mod compared to Android

[TheAppleFairy]

It is easier for the end user because of the "jailbreak" team. The exploits seem to be harder to find in iOS over the Android OS though.

So yes it's easier for a person to jailbreak an iPhone because the makers of the jailbreak make it easy, and because of the streamlined hardware.

 

[cdm283813]

It is easier for the end user because of the "jailbreak" team. The exploits seem to be harder to find in iOS over the Android OS though.

So yes it's easier for a person to jailbreak an iPhone because the makers of the jailbreak make it easy, and because of the streamlined hardware.

There are at least 2 ways to root/unlock bootloaders on any Nexus device. Even if you don't understand/know ADB commands there are all in one tools that will automate the process for you. These tools are updated on a regular basis to support each Android version or Nexus device.
And if you going to mess around with the OS in the first place you should get familiar with ADB commands anyway. Now when it comes to non nexus devices you are correct. But if rooting is your top priority Nexus can't be touched. Only a moron can brick a Nexus.
Apple should not even be in the conversation unless you like being stuck on old OS versions that support the jailbreak. iOS loss its potential to keep jailbreak after updates years ago. Apple hates jailbreaks with a passion; Google never blocks rooting/bootloader unlocks on a Nexus device on purpose. It's pretty clear to me.

 

[Septembersrain]

Bold claim - iPhones are easier to root and mod compared to Android

Easier? Yeah. It's due to locked and controlled boot loaders on some Androids that require massive skills to bypass. Even more skill if you don't want it triggering the counter that'll void your warranty (Think Samsung and Knox).

The iPhone is easily restored and placed back stock. This gives little or no hint of the previous jailbreak. Plus, one click of a software button on a computer? That's pretty easy if you ask me.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

There are at least 2 ways to root/unlock bootloaders on any Nexus device. Even if you don't understand/know ADB commands there are all in one tools that will automate the process for you. These tools are updated on a regular basis to support each Android version or Nexus device.
And if you going to mess around with the OS in the first place you should get familiar with ADB commands anyway. Now when it comes to non nexus devices you are correct. But if rooting is your top priority Nexus can't be touched. Only a moron can brick a Nexus.

With the Nexus, all you need is the Nexus Root Toolkit. That's what I used for my Nexus 7(2013)

Apple should not even be in the conversation unless you like being stuck on old OS versions that support the jailbreak. iOS loss its potential to keep jailbreak after updates years ago. Apple hates jailbreaks with a passion; Google never blocks rooting/bootloader unlocks on a Nexus device on purpose. It's pretty clear to me.

Exactly. And like I said previously, you only need a new method of root every major update. Like going from Jellybean to Kitkat or Kitkat to Lollipop. With incremental updates, you can use the same root method afterwards. On iOS, every single incremental update requires you to wait for another jailbreak. Sometimes it's a short wait, sometimes it's a long wait, and sometime the wait only provides a tethered jailbreak.

 

[gotluck]

You don't even really need to wait on android for the major updates either. Having the root managing utility updated (supersu is the most common) or some kit like he nexus tool kit makes life easier, but if you have an unlocked boot loader you have root access period (via some program on pc, it varies based on manufacturers, nexus and gpe have fastboot/adb, samsung has Odin or I believe it's called heimdall , not sure on others) You aren't breaking into the System like on a jailbreak or android root exploits like towelroot. You are just allowed in, that's what an unlocked bootloader is.

Chainfires issues getting supersu on lollipop is not the same league as iOS jailbreak developments or towellroot vulnerability. Dealing with how giving root access to apps works within the OS

I find the comments about weaker android security funny because right now the att and Verizon gs5 and note4 (locked boot loader) are unrootable while all iOS devices (locked boot loader) have been jailbroken for months.

TLDR you have to compare locked bootloader android phones with iOS

 

[jamezr]

You don't even really need to wait on android for the major updates either. Having the root managing utility updated (supersu is the most common) or some kit like he nexus tool kit makes life easier, but if you have an unlocked boot loader you have root access period (via some program on pc, it varies based on manufacturers, nexus and gpe have fastboot/adb, samsung has Odin or I believe it's called heimdall , not sure on others) You aren't breaking into the System like on a jailbreak or android root exploits like towelroot. You are just allowed in, that's what an unlocked bootloader is.

Chainfires issues getting supersu on lollipop is not the same league as iOS jailbreak developments or towellroot vulnerability. Dealing with how giving root access to apps works within the OS

I find the comments about weaker android security funny because right now the att and Verizon gs5 and note4 (locked boot loader) are unrootable while all iOS devices (locked boot loader) have been jailbroken for months.

TLDR you have to compare locked bootloader android phones with iOS

Great points! I can Jailbreak my iPhone 6+ right now with no issues at all. But I cannot get root or unlock the boot loader on my Verizon Note 4.....and probably never will.

 

[ecrispy]

There are at least 2 ways to root/unlock bootloaders on any Nexus device. Even if you don't understand/know ADB commands there are all in one tools that will automate the process for you. These tools are updated on a regular basis to support each Android version or Nexus device.
And if you going to mess around with the OS in the first place you should get familiar with ADB commands anyway. Now when it comes to non nexus devices you are correct. But if rooting is your top priority Nexus can't be touched. Only a moron can brick a Nexus.
Apple should not even be in the conversation unless you like being stuck on old OS versions that support the jailbreak. iOS loss its potential to keep jailbreak after updates years ago. Apple hates jailbreaks with a passion; Google never blocks rooting/bootloader unlocks on a Nexus device on purpose. It's pretty clear to me.

Nexus != Android !!!

In fact Nexus is barely known outside of forums and is not very relevant.

 

[mKTank]

Nexus != Android !!!

In fact Nexus is barely known outside of forums and is not very relevant.

Honestly I see more Nexus 5s than I do HTCs and LGs (other handsets). I think it sold pretty well and is pretty mainstream.

 

[bubulol]

Nexus = maintstream
Muhahaha

 

[cdm283813]

Great points! I can Jailbreak my iPhone 6+ right now with no issues at all. But I cannot get root or unlock the boot loader on my Verizon Note 4.....and probably never will.

I got a Note 4 and knew that I would not be rooting. But at the same time when I wanted the iPhone 6 plus I knew that I wasn't going to jailbreak as well. The entire purpose of owning a iDevice over a Android device is to have fast updates. Apple blocks jailbreaks within 1 to 2 updates. As a yearly upgrader I would always lose a jailbreak for weeks maybe months when I upgrade. Or I would be stuck on a iOS version with known issues. That's why I consider the Nexus program over anything on the market if you're into rooting/bootloader unlocks.
And I bought the Note 4 because of all the features and Gear VR; options not available on Nexus or iOS. And I find it silly to own a device that you're afraid to upgrade. There is zero fear of upgrading a Nexus and then losing the option. Just like there is a right tool for the job there is a right phone for having it fully unlocked; for ever.

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Honestly I see more Nexus 5s than I do HTCs and LGs (other handsets). I think it sold pretty well and is pretty mainstream.

To me the Nexus 5 was the best nexus. The Nexus 6 is good but the issue is price. If the Nexus 6 was $350 off contract it would be the ultimate Nexus.

 

[occollegeboi420]

As for the actual procedure, jailbreaking an iPhone is easier. All you have to do is install an application into your computer (depending on which iPhone and iOS it's on), connect it with the charge cable to your computer, pit iPhone in dfu mode, then press a button and voila, it's done.

Rooting an android is not clear cut like that. I'm literally scared to root my nexus 5 and s3. The iPhone, on the other hand, well I ALWAYS had my iPhone jail broken. I hate the phone unjailbroken.

 

[cdm283813]

As for the actual procedure, jailbreaking an iPhone is easier. All you have to do is install an application into your computer (depending on which iPhone and iOS it's on), connect it with the charge cable to your computer, pit iPhone in dfu mode, then press a button and voila, it's done.

Rooting an android is not clear cut like that. I'm literally scared to root my nexus 5 and s3. The iPhone, on the other hand, well I ALWAYS had my iPhone jail broken. I hate the phone unjailbroken.

S3 I can understand but not the Nexus 5. I believe that if you can't unlock a Nexus you should not be fooling around with the OS in the first place. If you accidentally softbrick your phone you will need to read and follow instructions. And it's pretty well documented on how to accomplish this. It's one of the reasons why pro's don't recommend all in one tools; people should know ADB commands and the importance of picking a driver that works. I personally love all in one tools but I do know how to ADB.
I've softbricked a iPhone 4 and 5 back in my day from jailbreaking. Sometimes it does not go as planned and you will need to learn how to fix issues as they come up. I remember back in my Windows Mobile days how easy it was to flash a Sprint radio to a Verizon phone. I basically bricked that device because it was too easy. You need to know what's going on behind the scenes.

 

[occollegeboi420]

S3 I can understand but not the Nexus 5. I believe that if you can't unlock a Nexus you should not be fooling around with the OS in the first place. If you accidentally softbrick your phone you will need to read and follow instructions. And it's pretty well documented on how to accomplish this. It's one of the reasons why pro's don't recommend all in one tools; people should know ADB commands and the importance of picking a driver that works. I personally love all in one tools but I do know how to ADB.
I've softbricked a iPhone 4 and 5 back in my day from jailbreaking. Sometimes it does not go as planned and you will need to learn how to fix issues as they come up. I remember back in my Windows Mobile days how easy it was to flash a Sprint radio to a Verizon phone. I basically bricked that device because it was too easy. You need to know what's going on behind the scenes.

Yah, that's why I have never attempted and probably will never attempt to root my android devices. With an iphone, there are tools that can get you out of boot loops and get you out of recovery mode. With android, there are tools but they're not so straight forward like for jailbreaking ios.

It seems like, from what I hear, that rooting an android requires you to know about computers and command lines and crap like that. I'm pretty tech savvy but NOT THAT tech savvy.

 

[cdm283813]

Yah, that's why I have never attempted and probably will never attempt to root my android devices. With an iphone, there are tools that can get you out of boot loops and get you out of recovery mode. With android, there are tools but they're not so straight forward like for jailbreaking ios.

There is no guarantee that each version of ios will have a jailbreak. But I can guarantee that each Nexus Android version will. Apples goal is to have iPad/iPhone in not only the average consumers hands but to have them in schools, government offices and healthcare. Having a simple to use jailbreak is harmful to Apples goal of doing this. Can't have kids running around with the potential of installing unauthorized software on school property. Can't have government officials running around with phones that can be exploited with "easy" jailbreak methods. Or healthcare records being downloaded on a doctor's jailbroken device.
Nexus devices are not meant for these applications. Apples goal is to make the iPhone tighter then Fort Knox and will continuously update to prevent Jailbreaks from happening. And this is the reason why many Android phones are being locked down except for the Nexus.
The only true enthusiasts device is the Nexus. I consider any iOS jailbreak pure luck. I've seen people stay on older iOS versions because they don't want to lose their jailbreak. Jailbreak apps have suffered from this because people have to choose over updated software or a jailbreak and the last time I jailbroke my iPhone there was barely nothing of use. And with so many people upgrading iDevices on a yearly basis the entire cycle of waiting for a Jailbreak repeats. Just look at the pie charts Apple flaunts. If iOS 9 is a hit and there is no Jailbreak it starts to become useless. I've been through it first hand and see that Jailbreaking is becoming extinct.

 

[nj1266]

Honestly I see more Nexus 5s than I do HTCs and LGs (other handsets). I think it sold pretty well and is pretty mainstream.

As of the latest survey less than 0.1% of devices are in Lollipop. It is safe to assume that these devices are Nexus devices because until that recent survey no other oem has pushed lollipop.

So how can Nexus devices be pretty mainstream when they are less than 0.1% of all devices.

 

[mKTank]

As of the latest survey less than 0.1% of devices are in Lollipop. It is safe to assume that these devices are Nexus devices because until that recent survey no other oem has pushed lollipop.

So how can Nexus devices be pretty mainstream when they are less than 0.1% of all devices.

Your logic depends on 100% of users opting for the upgrade and not rooting their phone/installing custom ROMs (which, if you know anything about the N5, you'd know it's probably one of the prime devices right now on XDA).

Your argument has deep statistical flaws.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

No offence to your phone but it really didn't sell well.

"Didn't sell well"?

How many other Android phones sell 4.5 million units in the first month? (I bet you can count them on one hand).

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

"Didn't sell well"?

How many other Android phones sell 4.5 million units in the first month? (I bet you can count them on one hand).

That is very true, it sold well in comparison to its Android competition. The Note 3 sold better in its first month on sale in 2013 however, so it followed the trend from the S5 earlier in the year with a fall in overall sales after launch. You are right though, Samsung is still the major player in the Android market despite a poor year by their standards. The Note 4 is also a fantastic device even if its market appeal is lesser than the more moderately sized models in their range.

 

[mKTank]

"Didn't sell well"?

How many other Android phones sell 4.5 million units in the first month? (I bet you can count them on one hand).

Most single Android phones don't sell all that well either. 4.5 million in a whole month without a considerable constraint in supply isn't really that good. It definitely pales in comparison to the Note 3 sales (5m).