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Boot Camp Files Hint at New Mac Pro and iMac Models [Updated]
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) iPad have spoiled me. Though I need to upgrade and prefer an iMac, I will never again buy anything that is not Retina.
) iPad have spoiled me. Though I need to upgrade and prefer an iMac, I will never again buy anything that is not Retina.
I'd like to know what a Mac Pro would be like without an ODD. Hopefully, it'll bring PCIE-E 3.0.
As for the iMac, wouldn't be that surprised if there's no ODD. Should be quite a bit smaller. Would also like to see Retina, but that many pixels on even the 21.5 iMac would probably be hard on the GPU.
As for the iMac, wouldn't be that surprised if there's no ODD. Should be quite a bit smaller. Would also like to see Retina, but that many pixels on even the 21.5 iMac would probably be hard on the GPU.
ODD - When was the last time you used one? about 2 years ago for me.
Retina - of course it's possible and 27" would be 5120x2880 which would need a new design of Graphics card or possibly 3840 x 2400 which is about doable - given that retina is about how far you sit away from the screen.
I have 2 30" dells at 2560x1600 and I cannot see the pixels at a normal viewing distance.
Would help if you define what a general purpose machine is... A laptop is pretty general purpose for 90% of people and that and exteranal monitor it plenty.
But if you mean Apple won't bring out a new iMac or Pro... see my previous post about the fact that it's what creat the hardware and content for iOS devices... of course there will be desktops in some form.
Also Apple is not going to let Sunsung / windows take a penny of profit unless it makes no sense at all ( Xserve etc ) and the destkops are the most understood and profitable of designs.
and once again - All apple Devs, both Hardware and software in Apple and all the hundred(s) of thousands of iOS devs and content producers need powerful machines
Where's the vote down button? There should be an auto delete filter for any post still mentioning matte displays. It's really ridiculous.
Considering it's been in there since November 2011, we'll know about it when the new computers are announced and/or released.
The hold up is Apple themselves, trying to decide what to do (if anything) and when.
And that statement has been proven false FUD garbage over and over and over.
You don't need a matte display, you only think you do, and that's a fact. Only the most self important and uneducated amateur professionals still cling to the provably false idea that matte displays are in any way needed for color accuracy.
Nice try though.
Isn't that an oxymoron? Entry level would be an iPad, Macbook, or iMac. You wouldn't want to fork out the big bucks for a Mac Pro unless you were indeed a Pro.
I guess I purchase products for the wrong reason. I'm looking for benefits and functionality from them, not sex. Looks like I may need to refocus.
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Cute thought. I suppose McDonald's should stop making shakes because over 70% of their profits come from burgeres and fries.
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Looks like they don't teach General Science in schools anymore. Matte has no impact on color. Color is totally controlled by color diode spectrum and intensity.
!! Why I Stay with Mac Pro
From page 2 of the linked article:
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Stability problems in Windows 7 SP1
Unfortunately, Performance Advisor didnt prevent me from experiencing some stability issues with the Z820. After installing my suite of pro apps (all legitimate licenses and installers directly from Adobe, The Foundry, Autodesk, etc.), Windows failed to shut down properly less than a week in, and I was forced to power it down manually after waiting 15 minutes. On the subsequent reboot, I had no keyboard support; after that reboot, I was forced into the Windows repair utility. It failed the repair, and subsequent reboots showed a black screen. Considering this was a brand-new hard drive with the tailor-made HP Windows 7 software installed, its safe to say I wasnt the weakest link.
When a new disk with HPs latest custom revision of Windows 7 Pro arrived, I was back up and running, but I was still experiencing problems with the USB 3.0 ports. When I connected my V-Ray dongle to one of the USB 3.0 ports, Windows just got stuck trying to load the driver and I lost all USB device usage. I was forced to power the machine down by tapping the power button on the front of the machine. This turned out to be a consistent problem, and the machine BSODed the next time it happened. Curious to see if it was the dongle driver (which is quite stable in OS X and Linux), I tried to mount an external USB 3 drive. It failed in Windows as well, where it worked on the Dell T5600 and in CentOS 6.3 on the same HP Z820. So I guess the Windows 7 64-bit driver for HP's USB 3 chipset needs a little work. Since it worked in Linux, its obviously not a hardware issue.
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Anyone who has worked with Windows in the enterprise knows all about this. That's why we have IT Departments.
From page 2 of the linked article:
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Stability problems in Windows 7 SP1
Unfortunately, Performance Advisor didnt prevent me from experiencing some stability issues with the Z820. After installing my suite of pro apps (all legitimate licenses and installers directly from Adobe, The Foundry, Autodesk, etc.), Windows failed to shut down properly less than a week in, and I was forced to power it down manually after waiting 15 minutes. On the subsequent reboot, I had no keyboard support; after that reboot, I was forced into the Windows repair utility. It failed the repair, and subsequent reboots showed a black screen. Considering this was a brand-new hard drive with the tailor-made HP Windows 7 software installed, its safe to say I wasnt the weakest link.
When a new disk with HPs latest custom revision of Windows 7 Pro arrived, I was back up and running, but I was still experiencing problems with the USB 3.0 ports. When I connected my V-Ray dongle to one of the USB 3.0 ports, Windows just got stuck trying to load the driver and I lost all USB device usage. I was forced to power the machine down by tapping the power button on the front of the machine. This turned out to be a consistent problem, and the machine BSODed the next time it happened. Curious to see if it was the dongle driver (which is quite stable in OS X and Linux), I tried to mount an external USB 3 drive. It failed in Windows as well, where it worked on the Dell T5600 and in CentOS 6.3 on the same HP Z820. So I guess the Windows 7 64-bit driver for HP's USB 3 chipset needs a little work. Since it worked in Linux, its obviously not a hardware issue.
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Anyone who has worked with Windows in the enterprise knows all about this. That's why we have IT Departments.
Why not? They've already turned OSX into crap.
Unless all you pros have been clamoring for Twitter/Facebook integration and glitzy animations all in a 30 pound desktop-sized iPad of course.
!! Why the Delay -- Here's Why
Apple moved rapidly from a cross-product commitment to the MiniDisplayPort connector for video, to the Thunderbolt Port. They pushed the video card manufacturers to be early adopters on MiniDisplayPort, which they complied with. Then Apple turned around and said, naw, now we need Mac-specific versions of your video cards with Thunderbolt! Well, Mac-specific versions of the video cards to satisfy just the Mac Pro market aren't that huge a sweet-spot for AMD or Nvidia, so, yawn, this time around they are taking their time. The new ACDs require Thunderbolt, so Apple got themselves up a tree. Until they have an OS X native video card with Thunderbolt Port they are not going to announce a new Mac Pro that requires you to buy a legacy ACD. Just a dopey series of decisions, nothing more.
Apple moved rapidly from a cross-product commitment to the MiniDisplayPort connector for video, to the Thunderbolt Port. They pushed the video card manufacturers to be early adopters on MiniDisplayPort, which they complied with. Then Apple turned around and said, naw, now we need Mac-specific versions of your video cards with Thunderbolt! Well, Mac-specific versions of the video cards to satisfy just the Mac Pro market aren't that huge a sweet-spot for AMD or Nvidia, so, yawn, this time around they are taking their time. The new ACDs require Thunderbolt, so Apple got themselves up a tree. Until they have an OS X native video card with Thunderbolt Port they are not going to announce a new Mac Pro that requires you to buy a legacy ACD. Just a dopey series of decisions, nothing more.
Apple moved rapidly from a cross-product commitment to the MiniDisplayPort connector for video, to the Thunderbolt Port. They pushed the video card manufacturers to be early adopters on MiniDisplayPort, which they complied with. Then Apple turned around and said, naw, now we need Mac-specific versions of your video cards with Thunderbolt! Well, Mac-specific versions of the video cards to satisfy just the Mac Pro market aren't that huge a sweet-spot for AMD or Nvidia, so, yawn, this time around they are taking their time. The new ACDs require Thunderbolt, so Apple got themselves up a tree. Until they have an OS X native video card with Thunderbolt Port they are not going to announce a new Mac Pro that requires you to buy a legacy ACD. Just a dopey series of decisions, nothing more.
Or you can have TB port on integrated GPU in Mac Pro mobo that you can use for data transfer only. For headless desktop computer you can have video and data separated. I agree its not the most elegant solution since they offer TB display as well but most Pro's seem to use other brands.
PCI-e v3.0 is provided by the CPU package. If they move to Xeon E5 or any 2012 or later Intel offering, it will have PCI-e v3.0. By 2013, the only way to keep PCI-e v2.0 is to commit either to AMD or Intel chips from that are minimally about 2 years old.
The Mac Pro has two ODD bays. Minimally they can get rid of at least one without changing even having an ODD as an option. The fact can chuck one and still have a left over means there would have to be some deep seated "war on ODD" being engaged by Apple. However, could loose both if Apple is looking to shaves 2-3 inches off the height and move some internals around.
Smaller is a dubious design move. The only practicall dimension they can reduce much is "thickness" (the height and width are driven by the screen and some of the requirements to place components in the "chin" ). iMac currently has thermal issues when pushed extremely hard. Two much better uses for the ODD compartment would be
i. Additional fan(s) ( and possible side vents ; new fans could put out the side, while others still push bottom-2-top ... )
ii. smaller fan and HDD or SSD (i.e., two drive set ups where don't have to stack the SSD in ad hoc location in the enclosure. )
iii. a socket/door that allows access to HDD ( huge leap in serviceability. Pop 2.5" drives in/out instead of optical disks. )
Thinner could be done by fusing the glass with the LCD panel without having to much with the back half, "computer" section.
I doubt anyone wants to see the increase in pricing "Retina" 21.5 and 27 panels will bring. It would be "doable" by the GPU. What would take a huge hit on is running 2 and 3 monitor set ups. Once loaded down with "twice as big" embedded display adding large external ones will expose the limit "torque" the iMacs have in doing even mid range 3D over an extremely large number of pixels.
2D (and OS X disco animations in the Finder ) would work but limitations would be exposed.
It would be nice to buy a machine that is compatible with devices widely used in 3 years, instead of stuck with devices popular 3 years ago and no longer made.
The lack of USB3 and TB on the current MacPros is worrisome for a prudent consumer. If your Pro is only going to be used for 2 or 3 year--great. However, the Pros' functionality can last for 6 to 9 years. By 2016, USB2 will be primitive, FW forgotten.
The lack of USB3 and TB on the current MacPros is worrisome for a prudent consumer. If your Pro is only going to be used for 2 or 3 year--great. However, the Pros' functionality can last for 6 to 9 years. By 2016, USB2 will be primitive, FW forgotten.