Boot OS9 from firewire iPod

reukiodo

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Has this every been done successfully before? I've searched and the only thing I can find is:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/i-installed-mac-os-9-on-my-5gb-ipod-an-look-what-happened.18229/

I've tried to set up a gen4 iPod which has a CF adapter and 128GB CF card in it. I've tested the OS9 install on the 128GB CF card in a CF2IDE adapter and the Wallstreet, the Pismo, and the Ti all boot just fine, so I'm wondering if it is just not possible to boot from the drive while it's in the iPod.

I've put the iPod into disk mode but it seems to be reset when OS9 starts to boot so the happy mac just stays on the screen indefinitely.
 

gooser

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i have no idea but i wouldn't be surprised that you may need a slightly older ipod to get it to work.
 

Slix

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I know you can use an iPod (at least a 1st-3rd gen, my dad used to) to boot early OS X versions, but I don't have any experience with OS 9 from an iPod. Are you using FireWire or USB?
 

weckart

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Only the first generation iPod was supported by OS9 and presumably 9.22 as a minimum since the iPod was launched in 2001. All the others required OSX to sync. I am guessing that even in diskmode, the drivers for the hardware aren't there.
 

AmazingHenry

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Try reformating the iPod in Disk Utility. Check "Install OS 9 Disk Drivers". Unfortunately I can't provide a screenshot at the moment as that function isn't on Leopard. Only Tiger and below. I can upload one from my Clamshell if you can't find the function.
 

foxlet

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Try reformating the iPod in Disk Utility. Check "Install OS 9 Disk Drivers". Unfortunately I can't provide a screenshot at the moment as that function isn't on Leopard. Only Tiger and below. I can upload one from my Clamshell if you can't find the function.
Uh... what?

 
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AmazingHenry

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As I said, Tiger and below. Function was removed in Leopard.
[doublepost=1495989622][/doublepost]OH, I see what you're saying! Little misunderstanding. ;)

I thought you were showing me that the checkbox wasn't there, but now I see that it is. My bad, it does work on Leopard! :D
 

reukiodo

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Try reformating the iPod in Disk Utility. Check "Install OS 9 Disk Drivers". Unfortunately I can't provide a screenshot at the moment as that function isn't on Leopard. Only Tiger and below. I can upload one from my Clamshell if you can't find the function.
It isn't a problem with having OS9 Drivers on the disk (they are already there) as the same CF card boots fine when it is attached directly to the PATA bus, just not when it is attached over firewire or USB in the iPod. Unfortunately I no longer have a gen3 or older to test with... Can anyone boot OS9 from a gen3 or older iPod?
 

Anonymous Freak

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I'll test this out later today. It's my bedtime now. I have a 3rd gen iPod (stock 30 GB, with basically dead battery) and a G4 Cube to test it on. I'll just clone the Cube's hard drive over and see what happens.
 

MagicBoy

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It will work on a Firewire native iPod when in disk mode. Someone I used to work with accidentally formatted then installed Windows XP on his by accident many many years ago as it was natively detected by the installer! :D
 

reukiodo

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I've tried both Firewire and USB, but mostly Firewire, as I wasn't expecting much from USB anyway. The gen4 was the last model to support both, and also the first color model, which is why I kept this one. I suppose I could try on the gen4 black/white, if I can find it.