'Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel' Launches Simultaneously on Mac, PC, and Consoles

[weezor]

It's going to run just fine on my gtx770 equipped hackintosh. Makes me very interested to see in which direction apple is moving with GPUs inside Mac Mini and iMac now that 4k is on its way.
If you are happy for the simultaneous pc and mac release your thanks should be directed to epic games as well for there unreal engine which this game and borderlands 2 is based on. Awesome company with mac love all the way down the road and now even supporting the editor plattform on OS X.

 

[AlecZ]

No, some of these things you wrote are not correct. Cider is actually a type of virtualization/emulation. The included game is the Windows version, with the DLLs and all. It is not executable on OS X. In order to translate that for the Mac (or Linux) it has to add an additional layer more or less like a virtual machine or more likely an emulator.

I know that it has to provide a compatibility layer, but it's not emulating any processors or dealing with other virtualization. As the name states, "Wine is not an emulator," and they address this on their "Debunking Wine Myths" page. I could have sworn Diablo III used Cider, but it was so long ago that I checked, so maybe I'm wrong.

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Wouldn't even want to try and play this on my mac lol. You need a PC if you want to game. Already put 12 hours into this bad boy on my rig.

I don't know, my cousin played the rest of the Borderlands games on his 2011 iMac without issues.

 

[Mad-B-One]

Loves me some Borderlands, but I'm afraid I'll have to wait until it goes on sale on Steam. I can't pay top dollar for games anymore, Steam and Humble Bundle have ruined me.

And why would you? There are so many good games to choose from that playing a 2-year-old game does not seem to be the same as 10 years ago where within the 2 years the playability, design generation, and fun factor all tripled. If I look at Elder Scrolls, for example, I see a game that just looks awesome. Sure, I played through it already (Thank you Seam Sale years ago.), but there is not significant "Oh! and Ah!" when I compare the latest games to it. I also picked up Forza Horizon for the XBOX360 for my 5-year-old son - he loves open road racing games and Forza has no foul language - for $17 used. The graphics are still up to par. Why would I spend $59.99 for Forza Horizon 2 that comes out this month? No, stay "humble," buy the "bundle."

 

[cajun67]

didn't finish borderlands 2. lost interest.

I didn't finish BL2, either. I was a little put-off by the fact that it let me complete the final mission long before I hit max level, and with tons of side quests still outstanding. It felt kind of pointless to keep going, especially when some of the side quests I had left to do still had some interaction with Handsome Jack.

"Hey, didn't I kill you already?"

 

[elmateo487]

Any company that is notorious for flooding their game with DLC, and has a fool as a CEO doesn't get mine. Not happy with their incomplete-game practices, giving preorder goodies to one country and not another but is happy charging them later for said-goodies.

Don't read into the hype on that dude. Go make your own opinion of him.

And Borderlands 1 and 2 were no where near incomplete without DLC. You are missing out, but thats ok.

 

[Albright]

#BoycottBurch! I was interested in this line of games at one time, but after seeing the mentality of the sorts of people behind it, I think I'll give my money to those a little more appreciative and sane.

 

[antonis]

I know that it has to provide a compatibility layer, but it's not emulating any processors or dealing with other virtualization. As the name states, "Wine is not an emulator," and they address this on their "Debunking Wine Myths" page. I could have sworn Diablo III used Cider, but it was so long ago that I checked, so maybe I'm wrong.

Yes, as far as h/w is concerned, nothing is emulated (cpu, gpu etc). Actually, cpu is not emulated even in vmware and parallels. It passes through from host to virtual machine as it is.

But in s/w level, it does actually emulates the windows kernel in order to be able to "understand" and execute the windows code. They might not call it "emulator" but it actually does exactly that, at least partially. System calls (the "bus" offered by each operating system so the actual code can reach - indirectly - the h/w) are totally different between operating systems, even when running on the exact same computer. So, "someone" has to constantly do the translation when a windows game runs under OS X. That's where the wrapper comes in. And that's inevitably a slow process.

 

[0098386]

Don't read into the hype on that dude. Go make your own opinion of him.

And Borderlands 1 and 2 were no where near incomplete without DLC. You are missing out, but thats ok.

I've done my research, thanks. I'll buy his games but I'm not paying full price. And I can only be missing out if I had nothing else to do .

 

[Anim]

Any company that supports same day releases of OS X and PC titles is a company I can stand behind.

Thats what pushed me to get this. Desktop game developers take notice! Let me remove bootcamp once and for all

 

[Malarkey]

I suppose it needs a joytick... any recommendations on joysticks?

Anyone have a recommendation on a joystick for this?

Also for Rage?

 

[Anim]

Got the game for £22 on Simply CD Keys, had a quick go (its way past my bed time) and it looks fun. The gravity jumps and gliding about in the air and power smashing to the ground seems like fun., Oh, max resolution and max quality, runs buttery smooth on 6 core Mac Pro.

 

[anubis72]

It can make a difference when the game hasn't been developed natively for Mac (meaning developers had to make an OpenGL version of their engine). A lot of developers go the easy route and release a "Cider-wrapped" version of their game which is really just the Windows version running through an emulation layer. In that case (and it's really common), then the OS choice does make a difference, since said emulation layer affects performance significantly. The same Mac running the Windows version of a game trough Boot Camp have better performance vs the OS X version.

See here for a complete explanation of the difference between a native and non-native Mac game: http://blog.gameagent.com/mac-gaming-101-understanding-native-vs-non-native-games-part-two/

That doesn't mean OS X isn't suitable for gaming, it's good enough for a lot of people, but still, if you want the best gaming performance for your hardware, you're usually served better by using the Windows version of a game on a Boot Camp partition rather than using the OS X version.

I don't disagree with this, I'm just not as concerned with the fine details as some people are.