It is going to be around exactly the same for many years from now. So would you just use the current iPhone for many more years until no patch?
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iPhone 15 Pro Max Both camera and cpu cannot be practically improved anymore
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You ask me, there hasn't been any innovation on on the iPhone since the X or any practical improvement on the iPhone since the 12.
I got a 15 because AT&T gave it to me for free. When you ask "why not use the current iPhone for many more years", there isn't a reason to when the carriers put us in brand new ones every 3 years at no charge. That's where I am with iPhones at this point. I think the vast majority of average consumers feel the same.
I got a 15 because AT&T gave it to me for free. When you ask "why not use the current iPhone for many more years", there isn't a reason to when the carriers put us in brand new ones every 3 years at no charge. That's where I am with iPhones at this point. I think the vast majority of average consumers feel the same.
You paid the phone in your cellular plan. My 4g plan is just $35 per year and 5g in my city is not that much faster anyway.
The camera sensor size and also cpu speed has been closed to limit. You can Google for more details.
Why don’t you post the link to where you are getting this information from?
Anyways, this has been an argument for sometime, and really you can say this about any phone but there will obviously be improvements in cameras, software, and hardware. It’s kind of hard to really change much because if it ain’t broke why fix it? The first 10 years that the iPhone was out it made more sense to upgrade every two years because about every two years you got some major features or improvements, the whole industry has matured quite a bit so now your phone will last a lot longer. I personally will upgrade my phone next year around September and that would have been 5 years I had my phone before I upgraded, and once I upgrade (probably to a Max or Ultra phone or something) I don’t plan on upgrading it again for another 6, possibly 7 years. Within that time there will certainly be a lot of fantastic improvements.
Basically for phones to get markedly different, the form factor itself would have to completely change. I don’t think folding phones is that differentiating feature either because most people just won’t feel they are practical at all.
iPhone 15 pro sensor is closed to 1 inch already, 1 inch has been the maximum for phone camera for years already, and Apple would not use 1 inch for years since Sony would charge much more for sure.
iPhone 15 pro cpu is using 3nm tech already but almost no improvement, with sales number is not big jump for sure, don’t see why Apple would still throw so much money to even invest into next level of nm tech for like 10% faster max.
example: 15 pro all 3 camera sensors are exactly the same as 14 pro. This trend will continue and also apply to cpu/gpu as well.
It’s called stacked sensors. The 16 Pro will likely use that.
1-inch is nowhere near the limit.
Same thing with CPU. Why do you think TSMC is investing so much in packaging technology?
3dfabric.tsmc.com
1-inch is nowhere near the limit.
Same thing with CPU. Why do you think TSMC is investing so much in packaging technology?
3DFabric™ | TSMC
TSMC Wafer Level System Integration (WLSI) leads the semiconductor industry into a new era of scaling that goes beyond the scope defined by Moore's Law. 3DIC platforms, such as CoWoS®, InFO, & SoIC enable innovation through chiplet partitioning & integration that achieves greater functionality...
Apple should just make a pro camera in different sizes that just happens to have wireless capabilities.
You know why they invest? Cos the iphone is their cash cow.
U think that they now stop improving their multi billion dollar product? Nonsens.
Even if camera would hit a wall there is so much more to develop and sell (see examples above)
Oh, what rubbish.
Even if they don’t improve the sensor size, there’s all sorts of room first for improving sensor quality (such as by reducing electronic noise) and second by algorithmic improvements (which have been driving a lot of the recent quality improvements but have only barely begun to take off).
Look at it this way: the camera’s sensor is roughly the same size as the central part of your retina, but isn’t up to that quality — and there’s plenty of room for improvement with the human retina (see, for example, many raptors).
And, while modern lithographic processes might or might not continue to shrink … who says that that’s the only way to make chips? We already see 3D printing processes in free-fall acceleration of capability; I’ll bet you a cup of coffee that, by the time lithography runs out of steam, our computers will be printed atom-by-atom and won’t any more be limited to effective 2D structures.
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In regards to the camera systems, there are some slight improvements in both the Pro models, and the Pro Max definitely has improvements, and likely will continue to get them. But this is also not something new, Apple and other manufacturers do this all the time, where you may not really see a huge jump in aperture, MP density, etc for a year or two and then jump. In regards to SoC that just simply isn’t true, and never has been true.
If we assume for a moment that @drugdoubles is correct, then what is the point of this thread?
Water is wet, the sky is blue, you need oxygen to breathe and so on.
But if @drugdoubles is not correct, but unwilling to acknowledge they are wrong, what is the point of this thread?
OP is making trouble and just wants to argue.
Water is wet, the sky is blue, you need oxygen to breathe and so on.
But if @drugdoubles is not correct, but unwilling to acknowledge they are wrong, what is the point of this thread?
OP is making trouble and just wants to argue.
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Even if things got updated substantially every year, you really don't need to upgrade every year, unlike what Apple would like you to believe.
People have been saying 'smartphones have matured' for the past 5-6 years lmao and yet they're still getting updated and improved
humans love technology and we will always tinker and find ways to improve no matter what.
humans love technology and we will always tinker and find ways to improve no matter what.
I couldn’t see a vast difference between photos I took during day time with my 12PM and 15PM in mobile screens. But night photos were in another level. Daytime photos showed differences when I downloaded in my Mac.
Technology goes forward, mobile cameras give better results than compact digital cameras. If iPhone adds another camera naturally processing power needs to be higher. I would like to use my iPhone like Samsung Dex, connect it to my Tv wirelessly through Apple TV and use like a Mac. Or by using usb-c peripherals. A17 pro is better than intel i7 in many ways so, why can’t Apple make iPhone to use as a small Mac?
Technology goes forward, mobile cameras give better results than compact digital cameras. If iPhone adds another camera naturally processing power needs to be higher. I would like to use my iPhone like Samsung Dex, connect it to my Tv wirelessly through Apple TV and use like a Mac. Or by using usb-c peripherals. A17 pro is better than intel i7 in many ways so, why can’t Apple make iPhone to use as a small Mac?
It doesn’t matter, you pay your monthly bill and at the end of three years they tell you here’s a free phone. It’s kind of like a toaster, you really don’t think about what it costs you per slice you just know that when it starts to get old it’s time to get a new one and, in most peoples cases, it’s nice when the bread company offers you a free new toaster.