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I bought a MBP with Mountain Lion. I've been trying to generate a USB 3.0 thumb drive with the ML installer on it, for future reinstalls.

The App Store gives me access to the new iPhoto etc, but not to ML, so I can't download the ML installer. Since I bought the MBP with ML, I don't see why I would need to buy ML all over again. All I want is physical media in case of a reinstall, which has happened many times with previous laptops.

Any tips?

I'm presently using the Recovery Disk to reinstall ML on 16GB USB 3.0 thumb drive, and it's telling me 3.75 hours. Plus in the end, I won't have a ML install disk, so what's the point?
 
I bought a MBP with Mountain Lion. I've been trying to generate a USB 3.0 thumb drive with the ML installer on it, for future reinstalls.

The App Store gives me access to the new iPhoto etc, but not to ML, so I can't download the ML installer. Since I bought the MBP with ML, I don't see why I would need to buy ML all over again. All I want is physical media in case of a reinstall, which has happened many times with previous laptops.

Any tips?

I'm presently using the Recovery Disk to reinstall ML on 16GB USB 3.0 thumb drive, and it's telling me 3.75 hours. Plus in the end, I won't have a ML install disk, so what's the point?

I used this program for creating a boot disk for Lion and it seems like the upgraded so it'll work with ML. I used an SD card.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/39701/lion-diskmaker
 
I used this program for creating a boot disk for Lion and it seems like the upgraded so it'll work with ML. I used an SD card.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/39701/lion-diskmaker

Yep, I had already checked that out--unfortunately, it looks for the Installer Disk image, which of course I don't have since there's not media or disk image with the MBP.

The main question is, why should I have to buy the ML installer, when I bought the MBP with ML already on it?
 
Macs have internet restore - which is great unless you have slow internet...
 
Restart and hold down Alt(Option) go into the Internet Restore, download a copy of Mountain Lion but do not install. WHen you restart you should see it in your application folder and can make a usb with the link above.

Not 100% sure if this will work but try it
 
Also tried the above. Not what I need.

Internet restore is currently 2 hours into the 3.75 hour restore onto a 16GB usb 3.0 thumb drive. What I'll have at the end is a bootable USB thumb drive with ML on it, but I won't have the ML installer.

I really want to somehow get the installer itself, so that I can avoid the same 3.75 hour download every time I may need to do a clean install.

Come on: a whole bunch of folks have just bought new rMBPs--they're in the same boat as me, namely no install media in case they have to reinstall.

Sorry, but waiting 3.75 hours when you've just bought an MBP seems totally insulting...especially when you still won't have an installer.
 
Exactly!

And I'm posting this from my old MBP on Snow Leopard, because of the 3.75 hour process. It actually finished, then had to start up from the usb drive to finish installing ML, though the grey Recovery screen was still on, whereupon it took 20 minutes to install ML, then the standard first-time OS dialogue.

The result is a 16 GB thumb drive with 4.42 GB free.

Still no installer.

Way too long for a clean system install. I want a usb ML installer!
 
when i got my new rMBP i was irritated as well because i expected ML to be linked to my apple id under "purchases" just like iPhoto etc. but apparently thats not the case. i cant even purchase it to get the installer even if i wanted to because the mac store claims my rmbp isnt supported.

i'm guessing the only way to accomplish a restore is to either use a time machine backup from an external drive or the internet restore ...
 
when i got my new rMBP i was irritated as well because i expected ML to be linked to my apple id under "purchases" just like iPhoto etc. but apparently thats not the case. i cant even purchase it to get the installer even if i wanted to because the mac store claims my rmbp isnt supported.

i'm guessing the only way to accomplish a restore is to either use a time machine backup from an external drive or the internet restore ...

Yep, we're in the same boat, although mine's a cMBP. So you even tried to buy it so as to get the installer? Surely Apple should have a downloadable Mountain Lion installer for the rMBP by now?

In the App Store, I've got iPhoto, Garageband, and iMovie under "Purchases" but no Mountain Lion.

So I can download those if I want to, but I can't download Mountain Lion.
 
Good grief. How many times does the OP have to say that he does not have the Mountain Lion installer from the App Store before people stop posting "solutions" that require it? (And especially solutions that encourage software piracy and refer to OS "Ex" like the last video.)

The lack of restore disks for computers shipping with Lion and Mountain Lion is a major pain. Not just for the OP's problem, but even more so (in my opinion) with the iLife apps. With those being tied to an Apple ID, I don't think there's any way to get them onto a clean install if you want to sell your Mac.

(Apple's policies are somewhat inconsistent, too. I received a redemption code for Mountain Lion via the Up-to-Date Program. Now Mountain Lion shows up in my App Store purchases and can be installed on my other Macs, exactly as if I'd paid for it.)
 
Taken from here...

Notes
1. Go to the link for pictures.
2. I just did a copy-and-paste, wrapped it inside some quote tags, and didn't bother to check to see if it looks messed up with a preview. If it looks messed up, go to the link for a neater version.
3. You may need to do things slightly different with OS X Mountain Lion, but the gist of the procedure should be the same.

When you use Lion Internet Recovery to reinstall Lion, your Mac contacts Apple’s servers, identifies itself, and requests the appropriate Lion-install data. Apple’s servers verify the Mac model and then, assuming it’s a Mac compatible with Lion Internet Recovery, provide the roughly 4GB of data for download. Once that data has been downloaded, Lion Recovery restarts your Mac, immediately installs the OS, and then deletes the installer data. The trick is to interrupt that process—safely—so you can grab the installer data and keep it. Here are the steps to take:

The Mac OS X Utilities window you see when you boot into Lion Recovery and Lion Internet Recovery

Boot into recovery mode by holding down Command+R at startup; you’ll eventually see a Mac OS X Utilities window. (If this doesn’t work, restart and hold down Command+Option+R, which should force your Mac into Lion Internet Recovery.)

Connect a drive—a hard drive, a thumb drive, or the like—with at least 12GB of free space. The drive must be formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled), and must have a GUID Partition Table. Follow Steps 1 through 4 in this slideshow to properly format the drive.

In the Mac OS X Utilities window, click Reinstall Mac OS X and click Continue.

On the Mac OS X Lion screen, click Continue. You’ll see the message, “To download and restore Mac OS X, your computer’s eligibility will be verified with Apple.” Click Continue, then click Agree (twice) on the next screen to agree to the Lion license agreement.

Select the drive onto which you want to install Lion. The important thing here is to select your external drive.

Click Install to begin the download. Depending on your Internet connection, the download can take anywhere from under an hour to several hours (or even, if you’re unfortunate enough to be on a very slow connection, considerably longer).

IMPORTANT: Monitor the download’s progress. As the progress bar gets near the end, get ready, because once the status reads About 0 seconds remaining, the progress bar will disappear, the installer will spend a minute or two cleaning up, and then your Mac will restart. As soon as the screen goes dark, unplug your external drive. If you wait too long, your Mac will boot into the Mac OS X installer on that drive, starting the installation process. Interrupting that process can leave your Mac unable to install OS X unless you restart it and—I’m not joking—zap PRAM.

Once your Mac has booted from its normal startup volume, reconnect the external drive. Alternatively, you can connect the drive to another Mac and proceed with the following steps using that Mac.

Open the external drive, and you’ll find a folder called Mac OS X Install Data. The important file is the one called InstallESD.dmg, just under 4GB in size, which is a bootable disk image containing the Lion installer. (If the Mac OS X Install Data folder has a “no access” icon, select the external drive in the Finder, choose File -> Get Info, and expand the Sharing & Permissions folder in the Info window. Click the padlock icon at the bottom of the window, provide an admin-level username and password, and then uncheck the box next to Ignore Ownership On This Volume.)

If you plan to use the same hard drive for your bootable installer drive that you used to download the installer, you’ll need to copy the InstallESD.dmg disk image to your Mac’s internal drive, or another drive, before proceeding. Use that copy in Step 12, below.

Launch Disk Utility (in /Applications/Utilities).

Drag the InstallESD.dmg disk image into Disk Utility’s left-hand sidebar.

Now you’ve got the latest Lion-installer disk image, and you’re ready to use that image to create a bootable installer drive or disc. As a bonus, the resulting Lion-installer drive should boot and support any current Lion-capable Mac. However, be aware that when Apple releases new Mac models, those models will come pre-installed with a newer version of Lion, so your installer drive won’t work with them. (At some point, Apple will update the Lion installer on the Mac App Store to support those newer Macs, so you can then download the updated installer and make an updated installer drive that supports even those Macs. And so on…)

The next steps depend on whether you want to create a bootable hard drive or flash drive, or a bootable DVD. I recommend a hard drive or flash drive; a DVD will work, but it will take a long time to boot and install. And, of course, depending on your particular Mac model—I’m looking at you, MacBook Air and recent Mac mini—you may not have an optical drive.

To create a bootable hard drive or flash drive

In Disk Utility, select InstallESD.dmg in the sidebar, and then click the Open button in the toolbar. This mounts the disk image’s volume in the Finder. The mounted volume is called Mac OS X Install ESD.
Click Mac OS X Install ESD in Disk Utility’s sidebar, then click the Restore button in the main part of the window.
Drag the Mac OS X Install ESD icon into the Source field on the right (if it isn’t already there).
Connect to your Mac the hard drive or flash drive you want to use for your bootable Lion installer. This drive must be at least 5GB in size (an 8GB flash drive works well), and it must be formatted with a GUID Partition Table.
In Disk Utility, find this destination drive in the sidebar and then drag it into the Destination field on the right; if the destination drive has multiple partitions, just drag the partition you want to use as your bootable installer volume. Warning: The next step will erase the destination drive or partition, so make sure it doesn’t contain any valuable data.
Click Restore and, if prompted, enter an admin-level username and password. The restore procedure will take anywhere from five to 15 minutes, depending on your Mac and the speed of your drive.

Note: In versions of the Lion installer prior to 10.7.4, you didn’t need to first mount the InstallESD.dmg image—you could simply drag the image itself into the Source field. However, with the 10.7.4 installer, you must use the mounted Mac OS X Install ESD volume or you will get an error at the end of the restore procedure and the newly created bootable drive may not function properly.

You use Disk Utility’s Restore screen to create a bootable flash drive or hard drive.

To create a bootable DVD

In Disk Utility, select InstallESD.dmg in the sidebar

Click the Burn button in the toolbar.

When prompted, insert a blank DVD (a single-layer disc should work, although you can use a dual-layer disc instead), choose your burn options, and click Burn.

You can now boot any Lion-compatible Mac from this drive or DVD and install Lion. You can also use any of the Lion installer’s special recovery and restore features—in fact, when you boot from this drive or DVD, you’ll see the same Mac OS X Utilities screen you get when you boot into Lion Recovery.

(Thanks to reader Jameel Morrison for confirming this procedure and for prodding me to finally write this article.)

UPDATED 2/13/2012, 9:29am, to make it even more clear that this article is aimed at owners of Macs that shipped after Lion.

UPDATED 2/14/2012, 9:40an, to correct the size of the drive onto which you want to download the Lion installer.

Updated 6/27/2012, 9pm, to add note about Disk Utility error message introduced with the 10.7.4 installer, and 6/29/2012, 8:20am, to correct instructions when creating a drive using the 10.7.4 installer.
 
If you registered your mac, you can download the ML installer from the App store.

Download, show package contents, locate the install.esd file and write that to a USB stick with disk utility or one of the available boot media apps.

You will need to d/l the installer, no way around it.
 
Taken from here...

Notes
1. Go to the link for pictures.
2. I just did a copy-and-paste, wrapped it inside some quote tags, and didn't bother to check to see if it looks messed up with a preview. If it looks messed up, go to the link for a neater version.
3. You may need to do things slightly different with OS X Mountain Lion, but the gist of the procedure should be the same.

Thanks a whole bunch! This is just what I needed!

I'll try it out asap and report back! Alternatively, everybody else in this thread can also try it out...
 
3. You may need to do things slightly different with OS X Mountain Lion, but the gist of the procedure should be the same.

Nope, that process is exactly the same for 10.8.x. Such a hassle.
 
Nope, that process is exactly the same for 10.8.x. Such a hassle.

Yep, a real hassle, all so that Apple can control more of its users.

Still trying to find the energy to try the very long procedure...
 
If you registered your mac, you can download the ML installer from the App store.

Download, show package contents, locate the install.esd file and write that to a USB stick with disk utility or one of the available boot media apps.

You will need to d/l the installer, no way around it.

nope you cant. it shows "buy" and even if u click on it, itll claim your mac isnt supported
 
I feel bad for ya OP, it's going over everyones head. I get it though, same issue I had. Internet restore is a bit slow.

I ended up using Time Machine, so I have a 'restore' anyway, but why not just install ML onto the thumb drive?

Reason I say that, is if you need to restore you can just open up recovery (alt option), and then open up disk utility from the file menu, and you should be able to copy the contents of the 16GB thumb drive over to a new or newly formatted hard drive. In fact it might actually be faster than an installer.

Just a thought. Haven't tested it though, but it's got my curious so I may do that here in a bit; install ML onto a 16GB thumb drive, then try and copy the files to my 500GB external and see if we boot!

Although, the solution posted above sounds even better, I may need to try that. Local microcenter sells 16GB USB 3.0 thumb drives for like 12 bucks, I've got like 6 of them..
 
But it still requires an internet connection to download the OS when you want to restore.

+1. The OP's mac, and any retina MBP, can download it from the internet anyway, it's built right in. But that's slow, and having a thumb drive where you are ready to just stick it in and install is much nicer.
 
+1. The OP's mac, and any retina MBP, can download it from the internet anyway, it's built right in. But that's slow, and having a thumb drive where you are ready to just stick it in and install is much nicer.

Has anyone figured out a good solution to this? It's a huge pain to spend 3 hours installing the OS each time
 
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