Bowdoin College to Provide Every Student With a Complimentary MacBook Pro, iPad Mini, and Apple Pencil

[pshufd]

I am not sure what your argument is anymore? Everyone who attends these colleges is well aware of what they must pay, and it's a conscious choice they make. If you do not wish to attend pricey schools, apply for aid if you qualify or just look for cheaper options (there are plenty).

It would be beyond ideal if education was free for everyone but that can never be achieved, especially in the US. In the end, private colleges are businesses, and colleges like Bowdoin do a hell of a good job in providing their services. If you do not wish to attend it, no one is forcing you to. But these places do make it possible for students of low income to attend with their amazing financial services, I suggest you read my earlier post on the help I get from the college.

We have free K-12. College is theoretically no different.

I think the say is true for healthcare.

But yes, private colleges are really just businesses. With non-taxable status.

 

[W4TA]

Would your kids want to go to college in the middle of Maine and endure their winters having grown up in the South? Maine's state bird is known as the mosquito.

I used to work with a parent with a child with great scores and he applied to the University of Alabama and they, at least at one point, were willing to buy students with great stats. Maybe to improve the average to attract more students or to improve the student body academic environment. He went there (from Massachusetts) for a few thousand a year. I'd guess that the in-state students aren't happy that they are spending money on recruiting out-of-state students.

I've never been to Bowdoin though I've passed through the area on the highway many times. I don't personally know any graduates from there eithe

 

[W4TA]

January and February temps can be brutal at Bowdoin (10F), but otherwise Brunswick, ME, and the surrounding coastline is a tourist magnet for its hiking, national parks, water recreation, beautiful fall colors, and New England charm. A lifelong resident of southern California, my son is a student at Bowdoin, and he finds the change of seasons (even the winters) beautiful.

Regarding the +$70k cost to attend (tuition, books, room and board, etc), the school is incredibly generous in its financial aid and grants. Average annual net price in 2020 was $25k. For families with income of $30-40k, the annual net price was $7k; for those earning $75k, $14k; for those at $110k, $22k; and for those earning $110k, $40k. Average debt at time of graduation is $24k (versus, say, Cal State Fresno at $20k... or $37k at Univ. of Alabama). Moreover, admission is needs-blind, where the applicant will be judged with no reference to income or ability to pay.

Lastly, Bowdoin doesn't need to offer "free" computers to attract students. Their acceptance rate is about 9%. But as mentioned earlier, providing the computers to low and middle income students ensures equal access to current technology and common platforms.

This institution is forward thinking and just happens to believe that all students, regardless of financial standing, should have access to current tools and technology. Bravo.

 

[pshufd]

January and February temps can be brutal at Bowdoin (10F), but otherwise Brunswick, ME, and the surrounding coastline is a tourist magnet for its hiking, national parks, water recreation, beautiful fall colors, and New England charm. A lifelong resident of southern California, my son is a student at Bowdoin, and he finds the change of seasons (even the winters) beautiful.

I see. So since your son is happy with the brutal winters, then all students from warm areas are happy there?

I've lived in New England for about 55 years and northern New England for 35 years and I know snowbirds and people that leave here for warmer areas. I've talked to parents with kids that are very interested in hockey for their kids at college and Boston and points north are my usual recommendations. We have a snowstorm right now and the estimates are that we get 14 inches. It's not really that bad as storms have been spread out. What's a lot harder is when you have snowstorms two to three days apart with 8-15 inches for several weeks on end as you never have time to really clean it up and you get mountains of snow and ice on the roads.

A lot of people want to move to Vermont and New Hampshire these days and they come into Reddit and complain that there's no housing available and ask what it's like and we typically give them the caveats about living up here. It is definitely not for everyone and there are people that complain about the weather and the lack of things to do, and, other things.

But here's a simple question: do you have tons of people going to Brunswick for spring break as you do with Florida and some of the Southeast coastal areas?

 

[urbanslaughter1997]

19K > 22K?

Perhaps you know these off the top of your head but I haven't run into any personally.

First, you just choose to ignore the other example I provided that was greater than 22. Second, you act as though 19 and 22 are not in the same ballpark. Finally, I didn't know those off the top of my head, I even mentioned in my comment that I went to Google to check. They were, however, two that quickly came to mind.

 

[pshufd]

First, you just choose to ignore the other example I provided that was greater than 22. Second, you act as though 19 and 22 are not in the same ballpark. Finally, I didn't know those off the top of my head, I even mentioned in my comment that I went to Google to check. They were, however, two that quickly came to mind.

Excuses, excuses. Would you say that the vast majority of public colleges and universities charge substantially less than 22K?

 

[urbanslaughter1997]

Excuses, excuses. Would you say that the vast majority of public colleges and universities charge substantially less than 22K?

No, but that wasn't your argument, so there would be no point in my making such a statement. You stated, “I'm not aware of any state universities that charge $22,000 for tuition for in-state students.” I provided, with little research, two examples. One was in the ballpark of $22k and another that was greater than $22k. I have made my point.

 

[pshufd]

No, but that wasn't your argument, so there would be no point in my making such a statement. You stated, “I'm not aware of any state universities that charge $22,000 for tuition for in-state students.” I provided, with little research, two examples. One was in the ballpark of $22k and another that was greater than $22k. I have made my point.

I see. Targeted response. The main idea is that the vast majority of state universities have much lower tuition costs. It doesn't really make sense to state that state universities cost almost as much as what Bowdoin charges for some students in light of that.

 

[r3m1b01]

I see. So since your son is happy with the brutal winters, then all students from warm areas are happy there?

I've lived in New England for about 55 years and northern New England for 35 years and I know snowbirds and people that leave here for warmer areas. I've talked to parents with kids that are very interested in hockey for their kids at college and Boston and points north are my usual recommendations. We have a snowstorm right now and the estimates are that we get 14 inches. It's not really that bad as storms have been spread out. What's a lot harder is when you have snowstorms two to three days apart with 8-15 inches for several weeks on end as you never have time to really clean it up and you get mountains of snow and ice on the roads.

A lot of people want to move to Vermont and New Hampshire these days and they come into Reddit and complain that there's no housing available and ask what it's like and we typically give them the caveats about living up here. It is definitely not for everyone and there are people that complain about the weather and the lack of things to do, and, other things.

But here's a simple question: do you have tons of people going to Brunswick for spring break as you do with Florida and some of the Southeast coastal areas?

The conversation is heading in a completely different direction. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the weather. I believe what the parent meant was it is still a lovely place to be despite the harsh climate. If you do not like the cold, simply do not go.

 

[3224932]

The benefit is if they got bulk discounts larger than the Apple educational discount and if this means that their IT department standardizes on Apple products so that they don't have the costs in supporting multiple vendors and architectures.

That’s all fine, but the point is…. The cost is still passed on to the student. The school won’t eat it.

 

[ZacKaffeine]

I am also from the area and over 50% of all Bowdoin students DO get aid. The college covers the whole cost for them.

I’ve edited my comment. I was exaggerating based on my experience with Bowdoin students. Most of them drive expensive cars.

Real question though—does a scholarship count as aid? If so, then getting aid does not necessarily mean they couldn’t afford the tech on their own.

 

[ZacKaffeine]

95% of students don't get financial aid?!? (I have no idea, but when I went to NYU in 1980s a majority of students were getting financial aid, I know I was).

It was an exaggeration that I should have worded differently. No, I do not think that 95% of people who go to Bowdoin go without aid. But taking out student loans and/or getting scholarships does not mean one cannot afford this tech.

 

[Appid194]

it is really important for students to have such devices in the 2022 academic year)