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qzak said:
back in 8th/9th grade i was living in Germany and i had friends who would do this. stupid as hell.

Same thing in Norway. My friends did this when they were around 13-14 years old. Never did it myself, since it seemed like a stupid and dangerous thing to do.
 
I'm just wondering in the dead kid won the game or not... :confused:

The twerp sure seems to have passed out the longest and deepest.

Silly games, that I cannot understand.

:(

Worse when the kids playing it don't know CPR, or have the equipment needed to monitor the heart or restart it.
 
Sun Baked said:
I'm just wondering in the dead kid won the game or not... :confused:

The twerp sure seems to have passed out the longest and deepest.

Silly games, that I cannot understand.

:(

Worse when the kids playing it don't know CPR, or have the equipment needed to monitor the heart or restart it.
I doubt anyone was concerned about who won the game after a few minutes.
 
When I was in elementary school (5th/6th grade, 12 years oldish, so 10 years ago, I had a number of classmates who would do this in the bathroom at school during recesses. :confused: One kid hit his face on the urinal when he fell :eek:, which made the teachers and principal aware of it. This led to a number of lectures on why playing this "game" is a really bad idea.
 
rainman::|:| said:
autoerotic asphyxiation and the "pass-out game" are two very different things. one is about sex, the other is about getting high. i doubt people who practice one also practice the other, considering the very different motives and techniques used.


Both IMO are very related. The getting "high" is just an excuse for anedotal (sp - darn Apple spellcheck) information about the arousal response from those that are hanged. In fact I first heard of this response from an English teacher in HS when we were covering Waiting for Godot.

A friend of mine, who went to the same HS years earlier, did die in his attempt autoerotic asphyxiation. Never thought about the possible link between the discussion of this teacher in the classroom, and the possible link to my friends death till now.
 
Peterkro said:
It is sad but it isn't modern these cases have been around for decades at least.
The British MP found hanging with an orange stuffed in his mouth and wearing womens underclothes only one of the more colourful examples,kids having been doing it at least since the 1960's


I think that boarders from being just a game into something more twisted, and disturbing.

Sad to hear about the kids, but how stupid can you be?
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
Both IMO are very related. The getting "high" is just an excuse for anedotal (sp - darn Apple spellcheck) information about the arousal response from those that are hanged. In fact I first heard of this response from an English teacher in HS when we were covering Waiting for Godot.

A friend of mine, who went to the same HS years earlier, did die in his attempt autoerotic asphyxiation. Never thought about the possible link between the discussion of this teacher in the classroom, and the possible link to my friends death till now.

I disagree, I think autoerotic asphyxiation comes from a progressive sexual desire, you don't hear of adults going that way because they wanted to get high, they could do that with any number of substances... tho the end result is, of course, a rush. Kids, on the other hand, are doing this to get high, because you don't have to obtain anything and it's free. If kids had access, and I'm not encouraging drug use in the young, to safer alternatives, they would do those instead. I've yet to meet a stoner that still chokes. So the difference is that these kids could be deterred as it's just a means to an end, while adults are seeking this very specific method to enhance orgasm. Mostly tho, I think it's sad people are making light of this by comparing it to a sexual deviancy. And I'll say it again, if you take away drugs like cannabis, and your kid has a stroke doing whip-its in your kitchen at 2am, think about what's really the danger here.
 
This reminds me of something some of my "acquaintances" used to do back when I was in college... when taking a hit from a water-filled cylindrical smoking apparatus (i.e., bong), the "hitee" would crouch while inhaling the goods and a bystander would stand behind them and put their arms around the person's chest (picture the Heimlich Maneuver). The bystander would then swiftly pull the person up to his or her feet as the person exhaled, and every time it was the same result: the person passed out cold for 20-30 seconds or so. It was crazy.... I've seen people vehemently deny that this would cause them to pass out, then do it and be out cold a few moments later.

They called it a compression hit... naturally I never took part, and I certainly wouldn't recommend it for today's impressionable youth.

Another destructive high I've been witness to is nitrous oxide. I had some other "acquaintances" in college who were flat-out addicted to that stuff, and one guy actually would do balloons (filled w/ nitrous, that is) while driving and - no joke here - rolled his car over twice. :eek:

Unfortunately he survived both accidents......

ND
 
applemacdude said:
stupid kids these days......

Its not that thyre stupid its just they dont know what it can do to them. When I was in the 7th grade (seems to be the time alot of kids do this) I was at a party and this idiot kid that know one liked (he ivited himself) wanted to do that so a few people got he out. He was fine the first 3 times ( :confused: :eek: ) Then the 4th time he passed out for 5 mins then woke up and had know clue where he was for 1/2 hour. The next monday at school everyone at the party got called down to the principals office and was givin the whole speach about the consicuences (SP???) and I havnt seen anyone do it since. Im really glad I wasnt doing making him pass out (talkin to people while this happend) imgine being a kid who killed someone this way. I would be scared for life. But there was a stpuid part about it, Every minute was videotaped!!! What idiots :eek:

Sorry for my ramblings
 
dubbz said:
Same thing in Norway. My friends did this when they were around 13-14 years old. Never did it myself, since it seemed like a stupid and dangerous thing to do.

Where is all the common sence in the world?? It seems like only 5% of the earth has it at times!
 
Some kids used to do this when I was 10 or 12. Thought it was stupid then, still think it's stupid now. Parents need to educate their kids better about stupid things like this, pay more attention to what their kids are doing, and get the kids involved in something worthwhile and productive, like clubs, sports, music, anything. :cool:

As iGary said, Darwin wins again...
 
it is times like this that i remember a quote i was once told

"you can't idiot proof everything, then we will find better idiots" or something like that
 
barneygumble said:
it is times like this that i remember a quote i was once told

"you can't idiot proof everything, then we will find better idiots" or something like that

These are my favorite variations of the quote:

"You can't idiot-proof the world. Idiots are too goddamn inventive."

"You can't idiot proof anything, everytime you do they make better idiots."

"You can't idiot-proof computer equipment. You can try, but the idiots just keep getting more creative."

:cool:
 
"In addition to talking to kids about drugs and alcohol, parents should discuss other risky behavior, like the pass-out game, Shapiro said."

Do I sence an after school special?

"Hey Jimmy, wanna place the pass out game?"
Jimmy:"No thanks, I'll just smoke some pot"
 
runninmac said:
Where is all the common sence in the world?? It seems like only 5% of the earth has it at times!

"Common sense is not so common" -- Descartes

Still true 400 years later.
 
I think this is just as stupid as boxing. You knock your opponent out cold, you win. Never mind the boxers who died recently during and after their games.

Stupidity will always be with us in one form or another. Gladiator games lasted 400 years. America as a nation has not been "alive" for even 300. Institutionalized slavery was alive for hundreds of years. Some things that are "accepted" are not necessarily right or civilized.

But then again we still have animal instincts. Give the gorilla a human-like brain and you've got yourself a more potent gorilla. But still a gorilla.

Like someone said, Darwin wins.
 
rainman::|:| said:
I disagree, I think autoerotic asphyxiation comes from a progressive sexual desire, you don't hear of adults going that way because they wanted to get high, they could do that with any number of substances... tho the end result is, of course, a rush. Kids, on the other hand, are doing this to get high, because you don't have to obtain anything and it's free. If kids had access, and I'm not encouraging drug use in the young, to safer alternatives, they would do those instead. I've yet to meet a stoner that still chokes. So the difference is that these kids could be deterred as it's just a means to an end, while adults are seeking this very specific method to enhance orgasm. Mostly tho, I think it's sad people are making light of this by comparing it to a sexual deviancy. And I'll say it again, if you take away drugs like cannabis, and your kid has a stroke doing whip-its in your kitchen at 2am, think about what's really the danger here.

Very good points.

I do think there is a little more to it though, I think the children aren't just looking for a rush but also pushing the boundaries of what they are allowed to do. If cannabis was legalised, they might possibly have less interest in it and instead crave harder drugs that still are proscribed?
 
Watch it now!

unfaded said:
Hey, if I lived in Boise, I'd be choking myself too.

Boise may be morphing into a suburban hellscape, but at least there isn't garbage everywhere (like say......L.A.), or rampant crime (take for instance....L.A.).

I can't stand the politics, the racial/cultural homogeny, or the utter lack of apple stores, but there's something rapturous about surfing the internet wirelessly at a fair-trade coffeehouse then being able to drive for thirty minutes and be in the middle of a national forest.

Boise is not the best place to live-- nor is L.A., New York, Seattle, Paris, London, Oslo, Toronto, or Tokyo. Every city has its drawbacks, and its perks. Boise happens to be where I've grown up. I'll surely move in the near future, but not to escape.

I would encourage some thought before concluding that a place is any more unbearable than the next.
 
am I the only one that finds things like giving 110% out on the field/court playing a sport, or going hiking through nature, or any number of things just as exciting as going out and getting wasted? cause i've done it all, and I really haven't gotten as good a feeling from getting wasted as I have from those other things, they give me rushes that truly make me feel happy and healthy, I don't get why that isn't appealing to others :confused:
 
I used to do this with friends in High School. Only, we wouldn't choke or hang ourselves. We'd have someone stand up against a tree or solid wall, have them breathe in, and someone else would press against their chest where their lungs are located and that person would pass out for a split second. Only thing is, you felt like it was an hour you were out of it.

No one ever got hurt.

Hanging yourself is stupid. These kids aren't doing it right!
 
chucknorris said:
Boise is not the best place to live-- nor is L.A., New York, Seattle, Paris, London, Oslo, Toronto, or Tokyo. Every city has its drawbacks, and its perks. Boise happens to be where I've grown up. I'll surely move in the near future, but not to escape.

I would encourage some thought before concluding that a place is any more unbearable than the next.
I would encourage some thought before comparing Boise to ANY of those cities.. :rolleyes:
 
Anyone who defends these kids by saying they don't know they're playing with death must be an elder idiot. When you choke someone and watch them pass out, it is obvious to anyone that it's not healthy. Even Lassie would go and run for help :D Whether they know that death can ensue or just a crack on the skull from the fall is irrelevant. IT CANNOT BE GOOD FOR YOU! Maybe next time these tardo kids will play the "stab me in the chest" game. Then we can have another forum will people will say that kids that age don't understand that skin can be punctured.
 
wdschrank said:
Anyone who defends these kids by saying they don't know they're playing with death must be an elder idiot. When you choke someone and watch them pass out, it is obvious to anyone that it's not healthy. Even Lassie would go and run for help :D Whether they know that death can ensue or just a crack on the skull from the fall is irrelevant. IT CANNOT BE GOOD FOR YOU! Maybe next time these tardo kids will play the "stab me in the chest" game. Then we can have another forum will people will say that kids that age don't understand that skin can be punctured.


Problem is that kids generally think that they are invincible. That they will never die, that it will happen to some other bloke.

As a high schooler, I remember taking the hilly, riled back roads of WV at speeds of 60 to 70 mph. To get my wheels off the ground. I know now just how stupid I was.
 
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