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dejo said:
All a Jack Russell (or any other breed of dog, for that matter) needs to do is bite you in the jugular vein and you could be left dying.

Just because 1 dog out of 100 from a breed will attack, is that enough justification to condemn the entire breed? If you think so, then you are a "breedist", the canine version of racist.


Well next time I upset a Jack Russel, I'll make sure not to lay down so it can grab me by the neck. A Jack couldn't take me down, but I'm pretty sure most of the above breeds could. I don't condemn them, governments do. I just don't like the breed. I prefer a nice looking, cuddly dog. Not a dog bred to rip apart a bull. It's just my feelings, others are clearly different.
 
Keep Her Out Of Society

mad jew said:
But I think charging her, and ultimately punishing her, will do more bad than good if it ends in jail.

My understanding of the justice system is that it is in place to ensure correct behaviour but I don't think that system works or applies in this situation, unfortunately. :(

Maybe I'm being a little idealistic, or just plain lazy, but I don't see the point in charging her if she wont learn from her mistakes. :)

Maybe for good?
 
what many people especially many dog owners don't understand is that the little puppy (or kitten) finally becomes a predator who is hunting their prey or at least wants to hunt prey which is smaller than they are ..that's why in most cases kids are the victims... for a lot of dogs it's a "new rival" inside the "group"
while for a dog his owner is the clear boss the "rank" hasn't determinated between the new guy (the kid) and the dog..that explains why normally kid and dog growing up together is hardly problematic

(grown up) dogs and young kids don't mix ... how many people do i know who were hurt by a dog as kid so that hospital treatment was needed ? around 6-7 from all my friends from my class,university etc.
sure fatallities are not very common but injuries are absolutly normal because of those group dynamic-instincts of dogs


how often snapped dog after my legs while on my bike or simply walking the street ? as a kid quite often and it was pretty close sometimes ... heck in our neighbourhood on dog chased me twice over 50 meters snapepd after my legs on my bike..for the rest of of the week the dog was alive (after having moved in) i passed the house full speed.i think after a week police took action because just 150 meters away in the same street there was an elementary school (where kids had no bikes)...
heck even that dog was described as a "family friendly dog"... some of those simply deserve the ***** needle
 
We can tell you cant have Marijuana because,,,,,because...... let me think now why was it? oh yeah its dangerous :D but its just fine to have Dogs that are bread as Killing Machines. Pit Bulls,Rotwielers,Dobermans and others. These things were made from the root dog for Killing, not for family pets. Instinct is in them.
 
iGary said:
The dogs have an underlying aggressive nature. They can snap in a moment. Some never "snap" their entire lives, and are wonderful animals. Others maul people to near death. Sorry, you'll never find me taking the risk.

Exactly. I love dogs, but I have to say that having certain breeds as pets is like leaving a loaded gun around the house. Guns can be safe and a fun hobby when treated with the utmost care, but it's very easy for them to 'snap' and be misused -- intentionally or accidentally -- in the wrong hands. I'd never leave a loaded gun in the house with a child, and I'd certainly never put an agressive breed dog in a family home.

As their defenders correctly state, the vast majority of these dogs are wonderful loving family pets and never so much as harm a fly. The problem is that they have been selectively bred for certain characteristics -- aggression being prime among them (think about all the illegal dog fighters -- do they ever use Retrievers, or Pugs?? :rolleyes: :D). These dogs have that instinct ingrained at some base level in the brain. They're just wired that way and you can't change that. Many never trip those wires, but when they do, somebody's gonna get seriously hurt or killed. I'm not willing to take that risk.

And personally, I think the mother should be charged with some form of criminal negligence leading to homicide. I recall there was a case up in northern California recently where the dog owners were convicted of the murder their dogs committed. More people need to be held responsible for the actions of their pets like that. Then maybe people will realize that certain breeds carry an inherent risk -- and heck, even docile breeds can be risky if they're mistreated! Pets should be nurtured members of the family, not lawn furniture that poops. Most aggressive dogs I've known personally were never socially engaged by their owners, so they probably degenerated into that state out of fear and lack of emotional companionship. Sad. :(


On an Apple-related side note, I know a guy who works at Apple. Apparently he lives on the same street as that boy and couldn't get home for a few hours that evening as it was blocked off while they looked for the second dog, who'd gotten loose.
 
acedickson said:
I'm curious where you draw your opinion of these dogs from?

Be curious no more.

My cousin owned a *placid* Rottweiler for about 5 or 6 years. Such a sweet gentle natured dog.

But at his daughter's birthday party, without warning or provocation, it attacked a 10 year old boy and bit him on the head. Fortunately for the boy there were lots of adults around and so managed to get the dog off ASAP, and he only needed a few stitches. Needless to say that my cousin get rid of him after that.

As for comparing dogs to people, that's also quite ridiculous to say the least. Animals are governed by instinct, but most people have the ability to think for themselves.

Consider yourself fortunate that your dogs haven’t attacked anyone yet.

I sincerely hope that you have good liability insurance!
 
absolut_mac said:
Be curious no more.

My cousin owned a *placid* Rottweiler for about 5 or 6 years. Such a sweet gentle natured dog.

But at his daughter's birthday party, without warning or provocation, it attacked a 10 year old boy and bit him on the head. Fortunately for the boy there were lots of adults around and so managed to get the dog off ASAP, and he only needed a few stitches. Needless to say that my cousin get rid of him after that.

As for comparing dogs to people, that's also quite ridiculous to say the least. Animals are governed by instinct, but most people have the ability to think for themselves.

Consider yourself fortunate that your dogs haven’t attacked anyone yet.

I sincerely hope that you have good liability insurance!

You base everything about big dogs being unpredictable on one rottweiler a family member had.

That analogy is no more ridiculous than your inability to think outside of the media's box. I'm not trying to change your opinion. I just want people to understand that that doesn't apply to every dog. These dogs are targeted only because they have the size, strength, and power to seriously harm or kill.

If any of my dogs ever did anything like that he/she be gone too.
 
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