Ok, so I just got this thing yesterday. It worked out of the box fine far as I can tell. I've only played with it for a few hours at most! I wanted to calibrate the battery, before this it was working fine far as I could tell. So I let it run without power (after powering it up) and wear out the battery. let it rest for more than five hours (not sure, it was running while I was at work so don't know when it ran out and let it rest five hours after I came home to make sure it had five hours rest). I plug it in again after that and it won't turn on. Ok, fine that happens with electronics sometimes when the battery is left to drain completely. So wait a few minutes. still not doing anything. Seems to be responding when I hit a key but the display won't go on. Hit power and hold to shut it off... the screen flickers on to what appears to be what it would look like if I woke it up from sleep (I mean it faintly shows a shadow) and then turns off. Anytime I hit a key it makes sounds like it's waking up than nothing. I go to restart it from CD after finally getting it to turn off (hit power long enough). I figure it's just oddity from waking up from being drained. It starts up, shows a screen and I apparenlty missed hitting CD in time cause after some startup it shows the desktop as from hard drive (except something about a startup CD) then fades out again. restart again, get it to start up from CD. Get a language selection, except it's not responding to my mouse. WTF?! Start it up again, all over, this time the mouse freezes but unfreezes after I second, I tell it to install MacOSX (then realize maybe I hsould have seen if there was an option to wipe the hard drive). Leave it be, come back to check on it, it went to sleep and once again won't wake up. Finally get it to wake up when I hit the power button (it seems to respond to that). It says it's been installed. once again the mouse won't move. Shut it down again. Restart from hard drive. Starts up, then screne goes black again and now it won't wake up from sleep, yet again!!!! WTF!!! At this point I'm sure there's something wrong with it. Damnit. It wasn't techincally DOA. Why can't it just work? I wanted to play with my new macbook and now it seems I will have to wait til I can talk with a technician or take it to the apple store and hopefully they're replace it cause I really don't want to already ahve a brand new computer that has been opened up and people messing with the insides. It's not really brand new at that point and it will have been messed with already. I'm really not having luck with macbook quality. My previous (and first laptop/macbook) macbook has been my crappiest quality mac I've had yet (but at least it works, it's what I'm typing on now). Apple is really slipping.