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Brazil Latest Country to Consider Forcing Apple to Adopt USB-C for iPhones
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I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume you have never heard of lobbying? You know that most officials are approached by “mega corporations” regularly right? In fact, many laws we hold as “good laws” were actually lobbied for by mega corporations.
Rules and standards should be set by the consumer/public. Officials are too easily corrupted because it’s only a small handful of easily swayed opinions regulating the actions of a much larger majority of the people.
And how would the consumer set these rules if not by using their vote? Certainly not by free market decisions that constantly brought proprietary solutions for mobile devices.
More countries might do it but Apple would anyway be making the switch to USB C in 2023.
Yeah, reminds me of another recent situation in New York where it seems like they waited until Apple had their repair process in place, then touted their “Right-to-Repair” legislation
Each time you purchase you cast your vote. Actions speak far louder than ideals. The guy who claims to be environmentally friendly but buys convenient plastic packaging isn’t really is he?
And you act as though proprietary solutions are causing the problem. How would unifying truly reduce the waste? Think about it, the same number of phones will be purchased, the same number of cords will break, the same number of cords will be lost, the same number of cords will be forgotten on vacation. Where is the reduction? You truly want to reduce waste? Mandate phone recycling by companies. Mandate cord recycling stations at stores. Mandate that new cords aren’t sold with phones so only those that need a cord are required to buy them. Apple tried to quit putting new cords in altogether a huge actually quantifiable reduction (one for every phone sold), but Brazil…the very ones crying environmentalism…got out the pitchforks and made Apple include them.
“It will help the environment” is a political pitch to sell you on the idea that the legislation is more than just about a bunch of annoyed people that they can’t just borrow their friends android charger.
I only say this because I speak from experience. I used to be in politics. There are people whose job it is to take what you do as a politician and write it up with buzzwords like “environmentally friendly.” Even at the local and regional level, I began to have businesses that would try to wine and dine me. They would offer me things to “just consider” their idea. I saw way too many of my colleagues quickly jump on board because they would keep getting these generous handouts. I saw so many elected officials quickly throw their core values out the window when money or power was on the line.
I would truly like to know how it reduces waste? Think about it, the same number of phones will be purchased, the same number of cords will break, the same number of cords will be lost, the same number of cords will be forgotten on vacation. Where is the reduction? Apple tried to quit putting new cords in altogether, a huge actually quantifiable reduction (millions per year based on phone sales), but Brazil…the very ones crying environmentalism…got out the pitchforks and made Apple include them. I don’t see this move actually changing anything. If anything it creates a huge waste influx as people who have been solely iphone have to throw away their lightning cables an purchase USB-C.
I think it is a difficult technical challenge to use the same standard for so many different kinds of devices. Not all devices need fast data connection or a lot of power. Why would a manufacturer of a device that sips power at 5W add anything more than it absolutely needs? Complexity, compliance, and testing add to the cost of a device. This will adversely affect many companies. Perhaps Apple can absorb (or pass to their customers) the additional cost, I think this will hurt smaller manufacturers more.
Brazil has become the latest country to propose mandating Apple to move away from the Lightning connector on the iPhone and switch to USB-C.
As reported by Tecnoblog (via 9to5Mac), Anatel, which serves as Brazil's consumer authority body, has opened a new proposal that would require all smartphones in the country to adopt USB-C. Like proposals in the US and the EU, Anatel says that devices that charge entirely wirelessly will not need to follow through with adopting USB-C.
Anatel says that moving to USB-C will offer "greater convenience for consumers" and could reduce global electronic waste.
Apple has been facing increased pressure from governments and agencies worldwide to move the iPhone to USB-C after more than a decade of the Lightning port. Following pressure, sources such as Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Ming Chi-Kuo have confirmed the company is testing an iPhone with a USB-C port.
While the iPhone 14 is approaching, reports suggest a USB-C iPhone won't debut until at least 2023 with the iPhone 15. There have long been rumors of Apple moving to USB-C for the iPhone, but with legislation in Europe gaining traction, it seems more likely it could take place soon.
Legislation in Europe would go further than forcing USB-C on iPhone and would also require all of Apple's products, including all iPad models and AirPods, to move to USB-C. If the legislation goes through, Apple would either need to ship special USB-C iPhone models in Europe or make the swap to USB-C worldwide. The proposed mandate in Brazil would take effect starting July 1, 2024, if approved.
Article Link: Brazil Latest Country to Consider Forcing Apple to Adopt USB-C for iPhones
And what happens when the enforced standard is no longer good enough? Will companies have to wait until Brazil's government develops or decides on a new standard? Companies being held hostage (technology-wise) does not encourage a healthy competitive market.
The standard allows a wide variety of power and data setups, so that each manufacturer can design their own proprietary cable beyond the basic PD requirements.
The low end phones likely will just ditch Micro-USB for a bare bones USB C implementation.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out and what how manufacturers customize USB-C to meet their needs.
I’m not claiming that usb c is the solution to everything but having a standard connector will hopefully reduce the amount of proprietary cables that do end up in landfills every year.
Proprietary connectors are never user friendly and always the least friendly to the environment.
In the past mega corporations could not be bothered to come to a table to improve this situation. Consumer demand and regulations have started to shift that but in the past often times the only solution to not habit to deal with proprietary crap was to not have a mobile device of sorts. Progress is being made, even if just from a pure convenience standpoint. We’re at the point where chargers are optional purchases, cables will come next.
I would agree, except apple has had the track record for the longest use of any one i/o without changing. 30 pin was used from 2003-2014 (2016 in India) and lighting is only behind that by about a year (2012-current). USB-C has only been around since 2014. In this case, I believe that trying to make apple switch doesn’t accomplish the environmental goal. The same number of people will still buy phones and cords at the same rate. And unless legislators begin allowing phone companies to ship phones without cables, then the problem won’t change. It’s not opinion it’s math.
Dont get me wrong, I have been wanting USB-C in iPhone for years. I think apple should play more nice with others and with non proprietary standards. But to do it under the guise of environmentalism is disingenuous.
Conforming to the same standard and harmonizing parts across multiple systems ='s lowest cost of production. Regardless of standards or requirements, a single part fulfilling all or most of a "insert function here" should be the least expensive option. It's not a technologically complex issue, it's a marketing point.
Regarding power delivery, USB-C will never be as cheap to produce as a barrel connector. Some devices, which REALLY only need power will use a more expensive port for no other reason than “some country says it”.
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It’s more complex than “a single part fulfilling all or most of a "insert function here." The USB-C spec allows for a lot of variation beyond basic power delivery. A cable that works with one device may not provide the same functionality on another.
This already exist. More expensive cables are not that hard to distinguish from cheap ones anyway.
Not to mention none of this is relevant to iphones anyway.
So what happens when USB-D rolls out? Do they repeat the demand again?
Just ridiculous - what’s next mandate all car engines be the same too? If you don’t like what one company offers, use another.
Just ridiculous - what’s next mandate all car engines be the same too? If you don’t like what one company offers, use another.
as long as the new USB standard is backwards compatible with USB-C thén it’s not a problem.
I imagine anyone complaining against governments ensuring some standardization among private companies would be ok with 7 different styles of power outlets across their toaster, printer, laptop charger, desk lamp, etc.
Yes governments and politicians suck, but there's still checks and balances in every situation. Apple and most other companies would drain their customers bone dry before giving up a single cent of profit, so some regulation is not always a bad thing.
Yes governments and politicians suck, but there's still checks and balances in every situation. Apple and most other companies would drain their customers bone dry before giving up a single cent of profit, so some regulation is not always a bad thing.
There already are. Maybe not at the wall, but TO THE DEVICE? Which is where USB-C is now? yup. Some don’t even have a detachable cable, good luck trying to use the cable that comes with your desk lamp with the one that comes with your printer.