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Your average person is using maybe 2-3 monitors, at most four and that's pushing it.
I'm fairly sure your average person uses just one display. Special needs call for more displays; some fields of work, some hobbies, in the case of laptops visual acuity needs.
 
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I'm fairly sure your average person uses just one display. Special needs call for more displays; some fields of work, some hobbies, in the case of laptops visual acuity needs.
When I say average person, I guess I'm meaning someone who's using a Mac for professional work. Designers, coders, etc. Not your average Apple customer who bought a Mac for home use.

Unfortunately, I tend to think that way because back when I got started in my own profession (graphic design), pros used Macs. I had dual monitors professionally at work from around 2003 on. That increased to three in 2013. And I don't think I'm alone, based on how many docks are now available that support more than one display on M-series Macs.
 
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When I say average person, I guess I'm meaning someone who's using a Mac for professional work. Designers, coders, etc. Not your average Apple customer who bought a Mac for home use.

Unfortunately, I tend to think that way because back when I got started in my own profession (graphic design), pros used Macs. I had dual monitors professionally at work from around 2003 on. That increased to three in 2013. And I don't think I'm alone, based on how many docks are now available that support more than one display on M-series Macs.
There is a wide range of professional work and the one I know from CAD, coding and back office use 1 external displays plus the laptops.

Do you even see whats on your screens 2 meters away:)
 
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Hey Guys,

I was just wondering about the pure power of the latest iPhone 17´s and with all the power they have right now, they should be able to run even macOS 26 and further quite easily.

So my idea of any future iPhone at this point would be the opportunity to even let them run macOS, because with all that power iOS is quite limited.

I mean, imagine any future iPhone Pro Max or even Ultra with a (Mini-)HDMI-port, so connected to a display and with adjustable resolution to work on a mac right inside your pocket... Maybe even wireless like CarPlay?

Despite Apple probably won´t give us this option due to iMac and MacBook sales, don´t you think it would be theoretically possible at this point?

Don´t get me wrong, the iPhone itself could still just be on iOS, but let´s just say a dedicated button or menu would turn it into a Mac?

Still able to answer calls etc. even when working in Mac-mode while playing games and working with connected bluetooth mouse and keyboard.

Google is working on combining ChromeOS and Android into one, so at a certain point this will be the standard with Android phones, to even have a Dekstop mode.

I mean, in the EU an iPhone 17 Pro Max with 2 TB ist 2.449,- € and even with the power of a gaming PC or even Workstation in your pocket you are still limited to iOS.

Again, my idea is just macOS as an option, not the default OS on future iPhones, but I think that would be my dream one day to see iPhones run macOS.

It even becomes more real if you think of a future budget Macbook with an A series chip, so even the hardware shouldn´t be a problem anymore...

Besides all this imagination, don´t iOS, iPadOS and macOS already share one platform already? This year Apple made the first step by renaming all their OS´s into 26, so what about just one OS to run them all with just different modes (iPhone, iPad, Vision Pro and Mac)?

What about Cyberpunk 2077 on macOS natively even running on your iPhone, not to mention steam and all the working and editiing Mac programs?

What are your thoughts?
Disagree. Phone is a phone with its limitwd size and its advantages on portability. It’ll be make more sense if macOS can Be installed in iPad.
 
Very doubtful. I can see a time relatively soon where you can plug an iPhone into a dock with a keyboard / trackpad and monitor setup, either as a desktop or a laptop form factor ( these already exist), but it would something similiar to windowed iPad os.

There shouldn’t be an issue with running MacOS on an A-series chip, as it’s already been done.

But Apple are not going to release an iPhone running macOS, as it would be horrible to use macOS in an iPhone’s form factor.

If you want a portable machine to run macOS, buy a MacBook Pro, or, if you want it to be portable but not have a screen peripherals, buy a mac mini.

If only because you’ll get far more for your money than you’d get with a iPhone running macOS. iPhones are comparatively very expensive for what you get compared to Apple’s MacOSrunning products.
 
There is a wide range of professional work and the one I know from CAD, coding and back office use 1 external displays plus the laptops.

Do you even see whats on your screens 2 meters away:)
Laptop display and one external counts as two displays. Just saying. :)

As to how well I can see, LOL. Aside from my iPhone camera's obvious distance affects, this is my immediate view (without peripheral vision of course, which the camera can't capture).

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I can see fairly well. :D
 
Hey Guys,

I was just wondering about the pure power of the latest iPhone 17´s and with all the power they have right now, they should be able to run even macOS 26 and further quite easily.

So my idea of any future iPhone at this point would be the opportunity to even let them run macOS, because with all that power iOS is quite limited.

I mean, imagine any future iPhone Pro Max or even Ultra with a (Mini-)HDMI-port, so connected to a display and with adjustable resolution to work on a mac right inside your pocket... Maybe even wireless like CarPlay?

Despite Apple probably won´t give us this option due to iMac and MacBook sales, don´t you think it would be theoretically possible at this point?

Don´t get me wrong, the iPhone itself could still just be on iOS, but let´s just say a dedicated button or menu would turn it into a Mac?

Still able to answer calls etc. even when working in Mac-mode while playing games and working with connected bluetooth mouse and keyboard.

Google is working on combining ChromeOS and Android into one, so at a certain point this will be the standard with Android phones, to even have a Dekstop mode.

I mean, in the EU an iPhone 17 Pro Max with 2 TB ist 2.449,- € and even with the power of a gaming PC or even Workstation in your pocket you are still limited to iOS.

Again, my idea is just macOS as an option, not the default OS on future iPhones, but I think that would be my dream one day to see iPhones run macOS.

It even becomes more real if you think of a future budget Macbook with an A series chip, so even the hardware shouldn´t be a problem anymore...

Besides all this imagination, don´t iOS, iPadOS and macOS already share one platform already? This year Apple made the first step by renaming all their OS´s into 26, so what about just one OS to run them all with just different modes (iPhone, iPad, Vision Pro and Mac)?

What about Cyberpunk 2077 on macOS natively even running on your iPhone, not to mention steam and all the working and editiing Mac programs?

What are your thoughts?

This failure of an idea was called Samsung Dex and Windows Phone.

macOS can only run on a Mac. iPadOS can only run on an iPad. iOS (formerly iPhoneOS) can only run on a iPhone. watchOS can only run on an Apple Watch. This isn’t just a tech thing. It’s also to do with product branding. Almost every tech and fashion company likes their products to have distinct lines because then their customers automatically know what they want.

As soon as you blur the lines between your product line up you not only cannibalize sales but also risk harming the user experience and sending customers to your competitors.

Take a look around. There are so many Mac users frustrated by the iPadification of some of the macOS interface.

As for running the full fat version of desktop version of Cyberpunk 2077 on an iPhone. That’s a very bad idea that will only throttle the phone and cause a lot of heat. There’s a reason why the Nintendo Switch version of Cyberpunk 2077 uses different assets than the desktop versions.

The mobile and tablet versions of desktop games have optimized assets such as draw distance, lower resolution textures and lower resolution models and less antialiasing in order to have decent performance on a handheld device or phone where heat builds up differently to a laptop. Your eyes don’t notice those differences on a little screen, but the developers make a lot of modifications.
 
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When I say average person, I guess I'm meaning someone who's using a Mac for professional work. Designers, coders, etc.

I have no idea what an "average person" wants, but I had about a 40 year career as a professional theatrical designer, got an Apple ][ in 1978 and first Mac in 1985. I traded my drafting table and pencils for CAD in 1995, put away the watercolors and moved to photorealistic 3d modelling around 2000. For awhile I used two monitors, but ultimately just didn't like the experience of splitting my attention between different screens.

I'm just more productive with one big screen, which has gotten progressively larger over the years. Currently have one 32" screen, will probably go up to 40", maybe larger next time. My only exception is editing video, where I also plug in a Sony 1080p studio monitor.

It's great that you find your multi-monitor setup productive but we're all different. That would be like "punishment" for me! :)
 
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I have no idea what an "average person" wants, but I had about a 40 year career as a professional theatrical designer, got an Apple ][ in 1978 and first Mac in 1985. I traded my drafting table and pencils for CAD in 1995, put away the watercolors and moved to photorealistic 3d modelling around 2000. For awhile I used two monitors, but ultimately just didn't like the experience of splitting my attention between different screens.

I'm just more productive with one big screen, which has gotten progressively larger over the years. Currently have one 32" screen, will probably go up to 40", maybe larger next time. My only exception is editing video, where I also plug in a Sony 1080p studio monitor.

It's great that you find your multi-monitor setup productive but we're all different. That would be like "punishment" for me! :)
Preference, as you said.

Professionally, I am only using two. One for my main display and a second for proofing. For instance, with the work Mac and two displays, the primary is my actual work document and the second display would have a marked up PDF showing the changes I need to make to my main document. For me…it's irritating to have to shift from Acrobat to see what change I have to make, then switch to QuarkXPress to make the actual changes. Oh sure, I could split the apps on one monitor. But then I'm working in a QXP document that is half screen.

I tend to favor having the primary document I am working on (or a web browser) be on one display directly in front of me - as large as possible. With palettes either minimized or to the sides on other displays. Additional documents go on other displays so I can just reference by turning my head, not switching apps. It means I can just focus on the document itself on one primary display without having to constantly move palettes or with palettes intruding into and taking up space the document itself could otherwise be using.

With my own setup, I can have apps that I am using but not paying strict attention to (such as a music player) running on an entirely different display. There are times where I'll be in one web browser (say on MacRumors) while another web browser is streaming YT video on a different display. And I have to use two, because YT will stop playing when you have two windows open in a browser and it's not the active window.

Sometimes I want Little Snitch showing me all my active connections and the data rate. I'm not staring at that, so it doesn't need to be on a primary display.

Finally, when in Finder I like having certain windows open. Depending on how much I access a folder, it will be open on one display or another based on that.

Can I get by with just one large display? Yes. I did it from 1999 to about 2003 in OS9 and early OS X. Once I was able to get dual displays though I never wanted to go back.

An extreme example (I don't usually have so much open), but to show where I place things…also, the TV is a TV so it's on the Amazon Firestick output streaming my local news at the moment.

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That’s a nightmare to look at. It’s like Microsoft Bob on steroids in VR.
That is because you aren't me.

Nevertheless, this was an example to show where I place apps. It isn't like I am using them all at once, nor am I focusing on them all at once. Usually it's just my browser in the main window and my music app or Youtube in another.
 
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