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Virgin Media, Sky and TalkTalk have been asked to block access to Newzbin2, a members-only group which provides links to pirated films and music.

BT has already barred its customers from accessing the site, following a court case brought by the Motion Picture Association.

The MPA is now extending its net in a UK-wide crackdown on piracy.

TalkTalk said it was "considering its response". Sky and Virgin Media signalled they would obey court orders.
Legal battle

"There are some elements of the order, for instance that we have to pay the costs of implementing it, that we think are inappropriate," Andrew Heaney, head of regulatory affairs at TalkTalk, told the BBC.

BT has estimated that the block against Newzbin cost it around £5,000 to set up.

"In a sense it wouldn't be worth having a legal battle over that but if the costs get a lot more we may reserve the right to contest it in the future," Mr Heaney said.

The MPA confirmed that it had written to the major ISPs.

"We are involved in constructive discussions but we are not going to comment in detail at this stage," said an MPA spokesman.

Virgin Media acknowledged that it had also received a letter as a preliminary step towards a formal court order.

"The recent Newzbin2 ruling clarifies the legal process for content owners to challenge alleged copyright infringement," said a Virgin Media spokesman.

"As a responsible ISP, we will comply with any court order addressed to us but strongly believe such deterrents need to be accompanied by compelling legal alternatives."

Sky also indicated that it was likely to comply with any court order.

"When presented with undisputed and legally robust evidence of copyright breaches, we will take appropriate action in respect to site blocking," said a spokesman.
Workaround

The MPA has hailed the Newzbin block as a victory in its ongoing fight against piracy which it estimates costs the industry billions of pounds each year.

It has vowed to implement similar blocks against other sites offering links to pirated movies.

Newzbin said on the day that BT's block began that it was "unaffected" because it had issued a software workaround. It claimed the code was being used by over 90% of its members.

In response, the MPA said that despite ways to get around the block, it was hopeful that the move would deter the "vast majority of customers".

Web blocking appears to be the new weapon of choice for the creative industries. On 4 November BT received a letter from the BPI, the UK's music industry trade body, asking it to block access to BitTorrent file-sharing website The Pirate Bay.

Via BBC News

Utterly laughable they think this will stop piracy in any way, shape, or form, of course - how many other countries have tried and failed to block TPB now? However, the long term effects of being able to censor things so easily can only be bad.
 
However, the long term effects of being able to censor things so easily can only be bad.

The more we move into the digital age, and abandon traditional methods of expression, the easier it becomes for 'evil forces' to control private communication.

Damn, now I am jonesing to watch V Is For Vendetta again!!!
 
Here's a blog post from TPB about a similar ruling in Belgium:

TPB censored, again and again and again...

Today we learned that we're being blocked - again! Yawn. When will they give up - we're still growing despite (or perhaps because) all their efforts.

So, if you live in Belgium (or maybe work at the European Union Parliament, we have thousands of visits from them every day) you should change your DNS in order to circumvent the blockage. You should do this anyhow - never trust your ISP.

There are some options! One is Googles DNS system. It is fast but run by an american company. Using this one is fun, because it probably makes Google semi-responsible for you accessing TPB in the future according to what we understand from this strange Belgian ruling! Click here to read how to do this.

You can also use OpenDNS, which is another great option! Click here for information on how to change DNS on your computer to OpenDNS, and here for info on how to change on your router.

And if you're tired of your ISP playing tricks on you, you can always just get a VPN. We're running our own VPN system and we never back down for idiocracy. This also lets you access the full internet freely where ever you are…

I'm using the standard DNS on BT at the moment, but I was still able to get into Newzbin 2 today. Maybe it's not actually been rolled out yet? Either way, I'll change the DNS if this keeps happening, and maybe I'll even move ISPs to one which doesn't give into this crap so easily.

BTW, when they tried this in Italy, Italian traffic to TPB actually increased! :cool:
 
Simply blocking (or attempting to block) these sites and services do nothing. People will always find a way around them.

The solution is to provide legal ways of getting the content across all the devices that people use for a fair price.

There will always be a group of users that will pirate everything no matter what but if you make it easy enough to get the content legally some people will stop.
 
Simply blocking (or attempting to block) these sites and services do nothing. People will always find a way around them.

The solution is to provide legal ways of getting the content across all the devices that people use for a fair price.

There will always be a group of users that will pirate everything no matter what but if you make it easy enough to get the content legally some people will stop.

Exactly. Companies which legislate rather than innovate never prosper as a result of that decision. As it happens, I am currently boycotting the big film and music corps because of stuff like this, and many others are doing the same.
 
Here's a blog post from TPB about a similar ruling in Belgium:



I'm using the standard DNS on BT at the moment, but I was still able to get into Newzbin 2 today. Maybe it's not actually been rolled out yet? Either way, I'll change the DNS if this keeps happening, and maybe I'll even move ISPs to one which doesn't give into this crap so easily.

BTW, when they tried this in Italy, Italian traffic to TPB actually increased! :cool:

Just going to point out the flaw in the article about using another DNS. The ISP would not block them at that level but instead block the ip address. All DNS servers do is provide the ip address.
The only way around it would be use a proxy server that is not effected by the blockage.
 
Just going to point out the flaw in the article about using another DNS. The ISP would not block them at that level but instead block the ip address. All DNS servers do is provide the ip address.
The only way around it would be use a proxy server that is not effected by the blockage.

The system BT will at least use is Cleanfeed, and you're right, that isn't at DNS level. However, it only works on port 80, so affected sites need only to use an unfamiliar port (or simply set up SSL) for the censorship to become uneffective.

Other ISPs may very well use DNS level blocking, however.

Either way, two of the best options are a reliable VPN provider (which gives you the added bonus of encryption of all your traffic even on public WiFi networks) or switching your ISP to Super Awesome Broadband, which is expensive, but has no IWF or Cleanfeed and provides its own VPN too.
 
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