I had never thought about this - that Netflix started playing in the content creator sandbox and that content creators might get upset about it and start playing in the distribution sandbox. You may be right but I thought it was more along the lines that Netflix demonstrated the market demand for streaming a library of content and content owners (Disney, BBC, etc.) decided to cut out the middle man by creating their own streaming service.Oh, I agree - the Balkanisation of streaming services is utter crap. But I can see why it's happening.
Netflix made its money by selling convenient access to other broadcasters' content. And if they stayed doing that, and the broadcasters were getting appropriate recompense for their content, everyone's happy. But, Netflix are now a competitor - creating their own shows with revenue earned from, in part, other people's content.
ITV and Channel 4 live or die on the quality of their shows. Netflix historically hasn't had that worry - people will keep subbing to watch all the other stuff.
This Balkanisation is inevitable when the producer and the distributor are the same.
We knew this when we set up commercial broadcasters in the UK. It's why the IBA handled transmission, whilst the ITV companies handled production. The moment a distributor competes with the producers, can you really blame the producers for looking elsewhere?
There's nothing in the T&Cs about a needing a TV License.You still need a TV licence to watch live TV on a mobile or on the web. This doesn’t appear to be Live TV though, unless I’m mistaken, so no TV licence required to view the service on any device
This fragmentation of streaming is going to send everyone back to piracy.
I'm not entirely sure what the point of this is for UK residents - it's not replacing iPlayer, itv Hub, 4oD etc.
If the BBC can accept a subscription model for some of its “back catalogue” then there’s no reason why a similar model couldn’t work for its current output. Go entirely subscription-based and remove the unpopular TV licence.
Well no... You paid for a service to make and present you programs within that year. Many of the programmes were made a long time ago and likely you were not paying for them then. Ironically the Licence fee should be called a subscription...but of course it's basically a compulsory tax.
Point in case. Every Doctor who before about 2000 I never funded though the licence. should I be allowed access to it forever? Does it instantly become public domain? Or Fawlty Towers,
I am guessing with your indignation you have NEVER bought a DVD / VHS / Digital content of anything ever... because you are basically arguing that if you have seen it once you own it and you should have it for free again.
The content is really pretty good and I am sure they will add more in the future... BUT I do think it should be about £40 a year.
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I hope this comes to Australia as I’m signing up straight away.
forgrt Apple Disney Netflix amazon this is what I want
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This is a good point. It might have had a pull for me if it did. iPlayer is the gold standard, ITV Hub is passable and All 4 is just pathetic. There must be some cost savings to be had in using the iPlayer functionality and not having to maintain separate apps. Competition is not good in this case.
BBC News might be a full-on right-wing fest but the tech arm of the corporation knows what they are doing and what people want.
There's nothing in the T&Cs about a needing a TV License.
This might be a precursor to remove BBC and ITV content from other streaming services (like Netflix and Amazon), much like Disney has just done with their service.
There is a risk of "subscription fatigue" here of course. I'm already have two TV Licences, Netflix, and Amazon.
It's is a place to replace DVD sales, and content older than a year to a subscription service, available ultimately to an international audience.
It’s £5.99 + £15 for TV License of course!!!
There's a very big reason it won't work for its current content.
Do you really only want TV shows that will make money? Because that's what'll happen. Whether or not a show gets made will depend entirely on profitability - will it drive subscription revenue.
Profitability's a good metric. But it should by no means be the only one.
I watch the odd show on BBC Four - an arts and culture channel. Some of these shows are actually quite impressively made. I can't for a second believe that BBC Four's viewership would pay for the same quality in a subscription model.
I listen to about 8 BBC podcasts. Would they be supportable entirely through subscription? I donate ~£12 to the Maximum Fun podcast network, and that's just two shows I listen to. The licence fee for *all* BBC services is about the same price.
Believe it or not, I'm *pleased* that through the licence fee, I help fund TV, Radio and Film for members of the British public who are nothing like me. I love that we have Scots and Gaelic channels that can produce good quality programming for those communities which they otherwise couldn't afford for themselves. It's hugely important that someone in China or the middle-east who's risked punishment to access the BBC can click a button and get the BBC's content in Arabic or Mandarin.
This is an utterly insulting service! We pay the license fee and then the BBC want to charge you extra to stream old content! A pathetic sad money grab from an institution fossil that should be made to go private!
Has paying the licence fee entitled us to free access, on demand, of older content from BBC, ITV and Channel Four in the past?
Can I walk into HMV, pick up a DVD of Planet Earth and walk out without paying, since I've already paid the licence fee?
Only if you watch live TV. I'm tempted to ditch the TV license and just watch catch up instead.
From the BBC yes, as for the others they are commercial operators so that’s up to them and their business plan and has nothing to do with the publicly funded BBC.
No. Britbox is only showing BBC content once it has already been removed from the free iPlayer. Before Britbox, your access to these shows would either be via paying Netflix (or whoever had purchased the rights from the BBC) or on physical media.
[EDIT] And again, if your response is "why don't they just keep everything on iPlayer" - again, that would be deemed as unfair competition which the commercial broadcasters would be angry about. The BBC Charter is available online - it's a long but quite understandable read.