I'm not understanding your logic. What does including ac wifi in the 5S have to do with the generation of phone following that?
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Broadcom Announces New 5G 802.11ac Wi-Fi Chip for Smartphones
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The fact that the chip release may not coincide with their own hardware releases? They can choose to focus on other things?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wifi chips are not something that's updated annually are they? Pretty sure my 5 and 5S had the same Broadcom chips. So they wanted to wait for the better chip to use for the next 2+ years.
Perhaps they also want to coincide with iPad releases so they can buy in bulk at the same time?
Come on. Lets be real here. 6 years is about outrageous. 5 years is about the right time, during when 802.11bd is out.
Nono, all devices are able to maintain a consistent connection so long as your router has the necessary processing power to accommodate it, which most do nowadays.
If you're sending data from an 802.11AC device to a device that only supports 802.11G (while using an AC capable router of course) then the transfer can only go as fast as the weakest point in the connection. Otherwise if you're sending from an AC capable node to another AC capable node, it will work at maximum available bandwidth even if there are G clients on the network.
Guys, this is just news. Not rumors.
Good for Broadcom, they have come out with a chip that can be within 5G thresholds. Applaud them nah...
If I were to guess when we could see this really being into actual universal markets and help the daily consumer, I have no idea really. 4G Networks infrastructures are still being phased in, so 5G is something to think about in 4-8years hopefully/maybe.
This good news is just indication the next gen thresholds are starting to puff out of some clouds here and there with some chips that will never actually be mass produced. But the tech is now there per se, so good job... good job indeed.
Bravo to Broadcom... but life on the universe is just adopting 4G. I'd rather your geekwork be put into your engineers having a task of crafting up a super efficient sole GPS chip that needs no A-GPS chip, just sole GPS chips... super low battery. What's up???
Fivegeee schmivegeeeeeee.
Good for Broadcom, they have come out with a chip that can be within 5G thresholds. Applaud them nah...
If I were to guess when we could see this really being into actual universal markets and help the daily consumer, I have no idea really. 4G Networks infrastructures are still being phased in, so 5G is something to think about in 4-8years hopefully/maybe.
This good news is just indication the next gen thresholds are starting to puff out of some clouds here and there with some chips that will never actually be mass produced. But the tech is now there per se, so good job... good job indeed.
Bravo to Broadcom... but life on the universe is just adopting 4G. I'd rather your geekwork be put into your engineers having a task of crafting up a super efficient sole GPS chip that needs no A-GPS chip, just sole GPS chips... super low battery. What's up???
Fivegeee schmivegeeeeeee.
This is very cool. It will give me the option to get rid of my last 802.11N device and go all AC. When doing very large file transfers, I will bring the computers into the same room. When doing less large ones, I use wireless. It also keeps largish file transfers from lagging out the internet.
More and more ISPs are offering gigabit connections. Being able to do very large file transfers to the offsite servers will be quite cool too.
More and more ISPs are offering gigabit connections. Being able to do very large file transfers to the offsite servers will be quite cool too.
It doesn't matter what YOU can get, it matters what EVERYONE can get. 4G is still pretty good, but in big cities it can quite literally get unusable at times. I run my home wifi on G because N is overcrowded and G is fast enough.
Faster is better, the idea that we shouldn't be developing better technologies because one single person can't take advantage of it is absurd.
Some of us have 1Gb fiber to the home
Not just that but think of how much faster WiFi syncing would be.
And asses times to and from my NAS would be SO fast
5G is a reference to its 5GHz compatibility
MIMO is about improving wi-fi efficiency. To clarify, to reduce the amount of time that the device has to reserve to transmit and receive data. Phones normally negatively impact WIFI performance far more than laptops and desktops because they aren't efficient in this manner.
In simple terms, it allows the access point to effectively service twice as many clients at the same throughput.
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The extra speed comes in handy within your local network. For example, to reduce buffer time when playing video from your iPhone to an Apple TV using AirPlay.
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802.11bd will be a bag of hurt
The number of people who lack basic reading comprehension is pretty funny.
This is a wifi chip - 5G is a meaningless buzzword. It's a more power efficient wireless AC chip, and is along the lines of what Apple has been waiting for to incorporate AC into iOS devices. Unless apple is planning on skipping AC for another year and yielding a selling point to competitors, this is something they would be looking into for the iPhone 6.
This is a wifi chip - 5G is a meaningless buzzword. It's a more power efficient wireless AC chip, and is along the lines of what Apple has been waiting for to incorporate AC into iOS devices. Unless apple is planning on skipping AC for another year and yielding a selling point to competitors, this is something they would be looking into for the iPhone 6.
I'm really glad that I don't work in a mobile/electronics store right about now.
Here's to hoping that Broadcom is just trolling us...
It's still bad marketing. That's my point. And most tasks for mobile devices still aren't BW limited, regardless of diversity.
It's not for Americans. Your infrastructure is about ten years away. This is for Europe and Asia.
LOL did I seriously just hear this? Here let me reword this for you. And let's have a blast from the past.
"What could I POSSIBLY use a whole gigabyte of disk space for!"
"What could I POSSIBLY use a whole gigabyte of ram for!"
"Who even has 10,000 songs to put on an iPod?"
"Why would someone need a camera in their phone?"
"Why would I want to browse the internet on my phone?"
You need to think outside of the box man. Especially if you are on a tech website, and can't possible think of how to use more than 30Mbps on your home connection. I use 400~Mbps every single day.
Why bother with AC on the iPhone? My understanding is they slow it down to reduce the impact on the battery. The only thing this can improve is wifi sync.
Got pulled in here by the misleading picture of "5G" before reading the article...
Just why would they do this...
Just why would they do this...
For a component which is never presented to customers.
NETWORK UTILIZATION. How many times do I have to say it?
It takes 2x as much Wi-Fi resources to transfer 1mb of data to a 1x1 client compared to a 2x2 client.
Capacity in wifi, especially in hotspots - is limited. Diversity is one of the most effective means of improving capacity, but it requires the clients to also support it.
The amount of data you can send per interval is incredibly important, and MIMO allows that to essentially be multiplied. The only other option for improving throughput without requiring more bandwidth is higher degrees of modulation and lower-overhead ECC - but that requires significantly more power, ergo range is highly limited, and increases the power-per-bit rate.
To negotiate MCS 28 or MCS 29 (1gbps+ @ 80MHz) between my Asus AC68 and RMBP requires the two to be about a meter away tops, and thats on the countryside where even 2.4GHz networks can operate in 40MHz mode with no interference whatsoever.
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Well crap. I guess this new "gotta-have" technology won't make it into the iPhone 6 this year. Naturally, I will have to skip purchasing the iPhone 6. Maybe I'll just delay my next iPhone purchase until iPhone 7 or 8.
So it's for the technical teams down selecting a wireless radio? I don't think so.
Which is great for public use but likely of no consequence to a home user. Faster transfers is irrelevant for most consumer use cases. That's my only point. I'm not saying 2x2 MIMO is garbage or useless.
How many people even know what wireless chip the iPhone 5S has (BCM4334)? Home many know what the iPad Air has (USI 339S0213)? How many know what the RMBP has (BCM4360)?
Let me give you a spoiler on those Broadcom chips:
They're also labeled as "5G".
2 at-home devices are streaming from the local NAS, or just Airplay Video streaming. Thats often going to put serious strain on the network. Especially if they're not in optimal range.
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