Broadwell shipping this year

[MrT-Man]

On its quarterly call, Intel said that "we qualified to start up production this month. We will qualify for shipment to customers towards the end of this quarter." and "then you'll start to see our customers bring products to market as we progress into the second half of the year."

So -- would seem like a Broadwell MacBook Pro could certainly happen sometime in the fall.

 

[Phonzoxd]

He's talking about a Haswell refresh

 

[thundersteele]

Well... I'm not an expert in this business, but for me this sounds like another month or so of delay, since production was supposed to start in Q1. That still makes fall 2014 possible, since fall lasts until december 21.

However based on how Haswell worked out this year I would expect:
- Air upgrade (or new 12'' rAir) with ULV Broadwell late 2014 (last week of october or november).
- Broadwell MBPs early 2015 (maybe when the christmas return window ends?)


Of course I could be wrong. Some related news:
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/02/19/sky-falling-intels-14nm-broadwell/
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34418-broadwell-will-miss-back-to-school-spree

 

[MrT-Man]

He's talking about a Haswell refresh

No, the comments were very specifically about Broadwell.

Sure, it's been delayed relative to the intial plan, but the popular opinion here seemed to be that Broadwell wouldn't show up till 2015 (based on the Digitimes rumor). The comments very clearly suggest volume shipments in the second half of this year (starting at the end of this quarter, not like in Dec.).

 

[simon48]

Even if this is specifically about Broadwell, Intel usually starts with the high end desktop CPUs and works their way down. So when they start shipping Broadwell it doesn't necessarily mean that the SKUs that will be used with the rMBPs will start shipping.

 

[MrT-Man]

Seemed to be four months, last time, between when Haswell shipments started & Haswell notebooks being broadly available. So a Broadwell MacBook could still happen in October.

 

[RichardC300]

Is there a chance of a rMBP refresh before the broadwell update?

 

[Barney63]

Is there a chance of a rMBP refresh before the broadwell update?

Maybe a minor speed bump.


Barney

 

[RichardC300]

Maybe a minor speed bump.


Barney

That's what I've also concluded from researching the topic. It seems like it won't happen until Q4, so people going to college in the fall (like my younger sister) can buy now without having to worry about missing out.

 

[dusk007]

Is there a chance of a rMBP refresh before the broadwell update?

The 15" could get a 850/860M as a dGPU. But that is it.

Seemed to be four months, last time, between when Haswell shipments started & Haswell notebooks being broadly available. So a Broadwell MacBook could still happen in October.

That conclusion makes no sense.
If they launch the first chips in the 4th quarter, that usually means towards the end of the quarter but even if it was right at the beginning of the Q4 a couple months on top would put you into 2015.
So far all rumors and published roadmaps say that only the dual core chips will land in Q4, which means quite a few higher end chips will launch later. Most likely dual core MacBook Air chips will land towards the end of Q4 and everything else will come in January.

Intel seems to be in no hurry with 14nm. They want to sell chips they produce with high yield cheaply and not rush to expensive 14nm and hurt their profit margins on the average chip sold. Which is why they intend to start with the tiny chips.

 

[maflynn]

Seemed to be four months, last time, between when Haswell shipments started & Haswell notebooks being broadly available. So a Broadwell MacBook could still happen in October.

Yeah, it was a while, so I'm still thinking 4Q though it still could slip to 2015

 

[MrT-Man]

The 15" could get a 850/860M as a dGPU. But that is it.

That conclusion makes no sense.
If they launch the first chips in the 4th quarter, that usually means towards the end of the quarter but even if it was right at the beginning of the Q4 a couple months on top would put you into 2015.
So far all rumors and published roadmaps say that only the dual core chips will land in Q4, which means quite a few higher end chips will launch later. Most likely dual core MacBook Air chips will land towards the end of Q4 and everything else will come in January.

Intel seems to be in no hurry with 14nm. They want to sell chips they produce with high yield cheaply and not rush to expensive 14nm and hurt their profit margins on the average chip sold. Which is why they intend to start with the tiny chips.

You missed what I said at the start of this thread. The first chips will start shipping end of June according to Intel. Forget the leaked slides, the rumors and the Digitimes article -- i'm going by what Intel actually said last week on their conference call. The transcript is available on Seeking Alpha if you don't believe me.