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Brother bought a dirty Verizon iPhone 6

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nedley09

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Told me he bought it at a crazy discount but did not check the esn/Imei before doing so. Vzw said the buyer bought it under edge then canceled the account

I know it's unlocked, but if it's dirty, can I still bring it over to T-Mobile on my account?
 
nedley09 said:
Told me he bought it at a crazy discount but did not check the esn/imei before doing so. Vzw said the buyer bought it under edge then canceled the account

I know it's unlocked, but if it's dirty, can I still bring it over to T-Mobile on my account?
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I sure hope you can't!

What's the point of having a national list of blocked phones if someone can simply steal one and take it to another carrier for activation? 🙄

From 2013: http://gizmodo.com/the-nationwide-stolen-smartphone-database-is-complete-1473076340
Now, all the carriers have announced that the technology will allow them to block activation of LTE smartphones and other 3G devices
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Well it's not stolen. Dude just did not pay the bill. I don't know if I should call him an idiot or feel bad for him.
 
nedley09 said:
Told me he bought it at a crazy discount but did not check the esn/Imei before doing so. Vzw said the buyer bought it under edge then canceled the account

I know it's unlocked, but if it's dirty, can I still bring it over to T-Mobile on my account?
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I don't think so. The best you can hope for is to sell it to somebody that takes them overseas. Try Craigslist. Not that I condone that sort of thing but it might be your only option in at least getting your money back.
 
nedley09 said:
Well it's not stolen. Dude just did not pay the bill. I don't know if I should call him an idiot or feel bad for him.
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It's stolen from Verizon if the guy who sold it to your brother signed a contract and ran off with the equipment without paying the bill.

Abandapart82 said:
Verizon considers it stolen even if your buddy paid cold hard cash for it. That's why it can't be activated.
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This ^
 
nedley09 said:
Well it's not stolen. Dude just did not pay the bill. I don't know if I should call him an idiot or feel bad for him.
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That is another way to say it is now stolen.

If someone buys a car on a lease, sells it to me and stops paying the lease payment, guess who owns the car? Not me.
 
Im not 100% but I believe it will still work on tmobile. It wont work for verizon since the esn is blacklisted.
Just stick a sim inside and check to be sure.
 
I'm asking him for the imei now I hope he does not get screwed. Shoulda asked me to help for the purchase
 
Well got the imei and called tmobile. All clear on there end. Can be used on their network. I even checked bad imei phones on eBay and same thing, showed useable on tmobile
 
nedley09 said:
Well got the imei and called tmobile. All clear on there end. Can be used on their network. I even checked bad imei phones on eBay and same thing, showed useable on tmobile
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Don't get so comfy, the national database can sometimes take up to 3 months to be updated. A lot of people have been screwed well after the fact by it.
 
SavMBP15 said:
That is another way to say it is now stolen.

If someone buys a car on a lease, sells it to me and stops paying the lease payment, guess who owns the car? Not me.
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Yes, but who's car get's repossessed when the bank figures out where it is? The one you bought that you don't own.
 
Well I found a bad imei from a year ago on Verizon and tmobile said it was clear.

Was he stupid, yes. Is he super lucky? Hell yes
 
The tmobile rep clarified a little more. The guy just did not pay. Not payment blacklist is not universal. If he reported it stolen, that's a whole different situation. Then it's a universal blacklist
 
nedley09 said:
Well it's not stolen. Dude just did not pay the bill. I don't know if I should call him an idiot or feel bad for him.
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From A Buick 8 said:
Not lucky, just low character. But the world is full of those.
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I don't know the brother, so I'm in not position to judge his character, but when people get unbelievable deals on brand new phones, it's naive at best, and intentional engagement in illegitimate business practices otherwise.
 
willmtaylor said:
I don't know the brother, so I'm in not position to judge his character, but when people get unbelievable deals on brand new phones, it's naive at best, and intentional engagement in illegitimate business practices otherwise.
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IMHO They are not naive, they know something is shady. Again IMHO, thats speaks to their character.

But hey, the OP opens himself (his brother right) up to these judgements by posting on a public forum. He is by default asking for peoples opinions.
 
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