Brother bought a dirty Verizon iPhone 6

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  1. nedley09 macrumors newbie

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    Told me he bought it at a crazy discount but did not check the esn/Imei before doing so. Vzw said the buyer bought it under edge then canceled the account

    I know it's unlocked, but if it's dirty, can I still bring it over to T-Mobile on my account?
     
  2. Hal~9000 macrumors 68000

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    I sure hope you can't!

    What's the point of having a national list of blocked phones if someone can simply steal one and take it to another carrier for activation? :rolleyes:

    From 2013: http://gizmodo.com/the-nationwide-stolen-smartphone-database-is-complete-1473076340
     
  3. nedley09 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well it's not stolen. Dude just did not pay the bill. I don't know if I should call him an idiot or feel bad for him.
     
  4. Abandapart82 macrumors member

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    I don't think so. The best you can hope for is to sell it to somebody that takes them overseas. Try Craigslist. Not that I condone that sort of thing but it might be your only option in at least getting your money back.
     
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    Verizon considers it stolen even if your buddy paid cold hard cash for it. That's why it can't be activated.
     
  7. irod87 macrumors regular

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    Verizon won't activate it but it should work for GSM.
     
  8. Hal~9000 macrumors 68000

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    It's stolen from Verizon if the guy who sold it to your brother signed a contract and ran off with the equipment without paying the bill.

    This ^
     
  9. SavMBP15 macrumors 6502

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    That is another way to say it is now stolen.

    If someone buys a car on a lease, sells it to me and stops paying the lease payment, guess who owns the car? Not me.
     
  10. braddick macrumors 68040

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    Not honoring his contract by avoiding his cell bill is in essence stealing the iPhone.
     
  11. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Im not 100% but I believe it will still work on tmobile. It wont work for verizon since the esn is blacklisted.
    Just stick a sim inside and check to be sure.
     
  12. nedley09 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'm asking him for the imei now I hope he does not get screwed. Shoulda asked me to help for the purchase
     
  13. CEmajr macrumors 601

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    This one I'm not sure about. It might work on T-Mobile.
     
  14. nedley09 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well got the imei and called tmobile. All clear on there end. Can be used on their network. I even checked bad imei phones on eBay and same thing, showed useable on tmobile
     
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    Don't get so comfy, the national database can sometimes take up to 3 months to be updated. A lot of people have been screwed well after the fact by it.
     
  16. GrimmsGirl macrumors 6502

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    Yes, but who's car get's repossessed when the bank figures out where it is? The one you bought that you don't own.
     
  17. nedley09 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well I found a bad imei from a year ago on Verizon and tmobile said it was clear.

    Was he stupid, yes. Is he super lucky? Hell yes
     
  18. willmtaylor macrumors G3

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    Yeah, pretty sure that was the point he was already making.
     
  19. nedley09 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    The tmobile rep clarified a little more. The guy just did not pay. Not payment blacklist is not universal. If he reported it stolen, that's a whole different situation. Then it's a universal blacklist
     
  20. GrimmsGirl macrumors 6502

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    Could be. My reply was made three cocktails in. Shortly before my eyes rolled back in my head and I was in la-la land. Reading comprehension was probably not at it's peak.
     
  21. From A Buick 8 macrumors 68040

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    Not lucky, just low character. But the world is full of those.
     
  22. willmtaylor macrumors G3

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    I don't know the brother, so I'm in not position to judge his character, but when people get unbelievable deals on brand new phones, it's naive at best, and intentional engagement in illegitimate business practices otherwise.
     
  23. From A Buick 8 macrumors 68040

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    IMHO They are not naive, they know something is shady. Again IMHO, thats speaks to their character.

    But hey, the OP opens himself (his brother right) up to these judgements by posting on a public forum. He is by default asking for peoples opinions.
     
  24. thatoneguy82 macrumors 68000

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    It's a Verizon iPhone, thus it is already unlocked; they don't have locked iPhones.
     

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