Yeah but I'm waiting on that Nigerian prince who is sending me all that money. Gonna text me any day now.BTW, the basics; don't click on strange text messages or emails. Delete them.
Yeah but I'm waiting on that Nigerian prince who is sending me all that money. Gonna text me any day now.BTW, the basics; don't click on strange text messages or emails. Delete them.
Text message is their without clicking on it. And I have to click it to delete it. Now what?BTW, the basics; don't click on strange text messages or emails. Delete them.
That's why we need to publish their addresses.It's just disgusting how much disregard there is in this world to recognize peoples privacy. Its like a group of perverts trying to find people that would install peep cams in the bathroom at a girls dormitory. Except I think that the hacking of someones phone is much more nefarious being that someone could actually be harmed by their phone being hacked versus just a peeping tom watching you.
LOLHmm.
If the exploit will be available commercially to those willing to pay the price, you don't think Apple will manage to secure a copy one way or the other?
Really?
You know what, as soon as I read your response and saw the reference to bullets I thought, “American”. That was before I saw Eastern USA in your avatar.It may be time to put up different kind of bounty. One where people that do this **** get bounty on their heads. Kind of bounty that leads to little lead high speed projectiles that won't be stopped by the money, unless they stack it around themselves hiding behind it.
[/QUOTE]How is that a reasonable table of vulnerabilities? MAC OS X includes all version of OS X, so in that sense all version of Windows should be grouped together in the same manner. That would definitely change the results.
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Or if you don't believe that one goto CVE, they show OS X having 114 for 2014, windows had 38.
2015 is showing OS X with 335!!!! vulnerabilities, where as windows have 135 server, 130 for Win8
They deserve itYou know what, as soon as I read your response and saw the reference to bullets I thought, “American”. That was before I saw Eastern USA in your avatar.
What a shame…...
This is very very bad. This is going to be abused by either our government or another malicious party. For example, all one would need to do is inject the exploit in an unencrypted WiFi to gain complete control over a phone since this is a browser based hack.
Someone need to publish names and home addresses of the people offering bounty, those creating exploit, and those buy it. Let's get something going here exploiting their privacy.
Was waiting to see how long before these low life's claim it's apples fault. Just re-confirms what I said, let's get the names and addresses of these scumbaggs. Don't like Apple don't use the products. Speaking for myself. Some of us don't want jailbreaks. Especially hacker ones.You simply cannot blame them, though. Every single time someone jailbreaks iOS (currently legal, BTW), Apple jumps in and patches it so it no longer works. You can't have private software development (let's face it, some companies and governments have ZERO desire to share their plans/ideas with Apple) on a closed system. It's ironic it's legal to jailbreak, but Apple isn't legally bound to honor that legality. If Apple would just provide an open OPTION (like OS X has by telling it to allow ALL Apps to be installed even by unknown developers) for an open system or 3rd party stores, etc. (at your own risk) then this sort of thing wouldn't be necessary. Clearly there is a market for iPhones with 100% private Apps. You can't expect the government to send their top secret military Apps to Apple for approval.
The worry, of course is that someone will take advantage of this exploit to do something else, but that's Apple's fault as well. If they'd provide an official method to install software, people wouldn't have to find an exploit and then hide it to keep it useful. Of course, the problem is that Apple will just get someone on their payroll to fake a business or whatever and get the software from this company and then close the exploit and this company will be up the creek without a paddle (i.e. it would have to be unbelievably careful who they sold this to for Apple to NOT get it's hands on it). The fact they'd even publicly announce they had it is a bad move, IMO.
Speak for yourself. Some of us want jailbreaks. Frack Apple and their money grubbing closed system!
well, at least they *all* are vulnerable....
I gotta hand it to hackers,,, they can now get Jailbreaks done even before public release....![]()
So if they sell this jailbreak to users someone from Apple pays up, does the jailbreak through the website and captures how it works, then patches it. Don't expect it to be long lived.
Govermment going after them? Please, they're one of the main buyers.My first thought around this was to think through the business plan. How much money do they need to put up, what are their expenses, earnings, and revenue.
My second thought is this is completely immoral. They specified a situation where they could exploit someone easily, without their knowledge, and against their will. They are not delivering the "solution" to Apple so they can fix it. Instead, they are selling it to shady companies (including government agencies through shell companies), so that it can be used to hurt and exploit people.
In my day, hackers did release viruses. But they didn't do it to make money, or worse, to steal yours. They did it because it was a puzzle to solve, and clearly showed they knew what they were doing. These days, "hackers" are criminals. People who do their best to get a ten-year old to click on a link so they can gain access to the computer and steal identity information about the family that owns it. That isn't hacking. That's creepy as all hell, and needs to be stopped.
Shame on this company, and shame on our government for not going after them. I find it impossible to believe that they couldn't find some law to apply to this, even if it is an old law that deals with the interception of telegraphs.
Very bad. The only good thing? This crap is making companies that care, like Apple, increase their security. They were doing that anyway, but yay. I guess.
This is very very bad. This is going to be abused by either our government or another malicious party. For example, all one would need to do is inject the exploit in an unencrypted WiFi to gain complete control over a phone since this is a browser based hack.
holy crap that's crazy......
"one hacking team" = NSA
Kudos for being willfully daft. If there are a million vulnerabilities but very few working attacks, is that less secure than something with 10 vulnerabilities but a million known working attacks using them?
In any case, your initial comparison makes little sense anyway, since the nature of iOS and iOS hardware makes it quite different from a security perspective than Mac OS X.
What is a "foundar"?Zerodium foundar Chaouki Bekrar told Wired
Worse, the NSA are probably among the customers.
How vulnerable do you feel, knowing that any website you visit could potentially be jailbreaking your phone behind the scenes installing wiretaps and uploading your message history.
This is the idyllic future which the security services have spelled out for us. You won't be allowed to encrypt anything which can't be read by a public agency (outlawing absolute privacy) and they'll have a catalogue of exploits which are making Americans targets but won't try to stop it; they join in and participate in torturing the constitution.
Welcome to the bizarro world.
Yes but wasn't that the decision of the device owner? Now we are talking about a way for someone else to remotely jailbreak your device and take control. That someone likely being the government or a corporation trying to data mine the hell out of you.Don't understand why people are getting in a tizwoz over this, you've been apple to jailbreak and install unsigned apps through the browser on iOS devices on many previous iOS incarnations![]()
Yes but wasn't that the decision of the device owner? Now we are talking about a way for someone else to remotely jailbreak your device and take control. That someone likely being the government or a corporation trying to data mine the hell out of you.
This is depressing news. Especially how it came about. Especially because it apparently all is legal. Because our government can't be made to recognize that its citizens should have the same right to privacy and security from unwarranted searches on our electronic devices for our personal information as we do in our homes.
If we were talking about data kept in physical filing cabinets, we'd have protection under the law from people physically breaking in and reading or stealing it, thanks to our founding fathers securing that for us in the era of quill and parchment. But the same information kept in electronic form is not considered equally sacred because our lawmakers and all those unchecked executive orders won't extend the legal protections in modern times because our government wants that info. And even begrudges us the files in our filing cabinets and would take that if they could, too.