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Bruce Willis Considering Lawsuit Against Apple Over iTunes Store Music Transferability [Updated]

Launch epic industry-challenging lawsuit, or write my iTunes password in my will? Tricky choice.
 
I think Apple will likely try to pass the buck on to the record labels, who really are the evil ones here.
 
Bruce could simply burn all his music on a bunch of video discs.
Hello! There we go. Problem solved.
Now go create some effing jobs!!!
 
Just give your children your damn password and have them authorize their computer.

Simple
 
The amount of fanboys is too damn high. Of course he's right. Everything you BUY, you BUY, not rent. What you BUY is yours, forever. This is a hole in the current digital music platform age!
 
DRM-free from Apple isn't really DRM-free

Without authorising my partner's iTunes to play tracks that I buy from Apple, they won't play. You can only authorise 5 machines using your iTunes ID.

Each track we buy from Apple comes tagged with our Apple ID. The last time I tried converting them to a DRM-free mp3, I got a message saying that it's not allowed.

I would use DRM-free very loosely for tracks bought from Apple
 
WaltCD said:
Finally, let's say that he has 50,000 songs he's purchased. Apple should just give his daughters the songs and make this go away. It's cheaper than a lawsuit and Bruce Willis is big enough star that this would be too much bad publicity.


Walt D in LV
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Right but that's not the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that if Bruce wins then not only can he have his music transferred, EVERYONE will want the same treatment. Bruce isn't special in that regard.
 
you can burn it to a CD that will play in a cd player, and from there you can even re-rip it if you desire. And you can do this with the same program you bought the protected music from in the first place.

There are a lot of ways around this. And DRM is irrelevant here.

The reason Apple initially used the "rent vs buy" concept is so they were not responsible for you misusing the song. This way Apple can suspend the use of your music collection (that you bought from them) and appease the songwriter/label/etc if you are misusing the music.
 
People need to learn to read before they click "I Agree" and stop complaining that it doesn't do exactly what they want and instead it does exactly what the agreement says it will do. If you don't like it, don't click "I Agree."
 
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I've never once purchased a track, or a movie, via iTunes, or any other online distribution service. I'm not bragging, I'm stating a fact.

I'm just glad my family can enjoy my CD and vinyl collection long after me...
Ok, now I'm bragging.
 
Bezetos said:
I thought that only iTunes Plus offers DRM-free music?
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Apple made the entire music store DRM free in 2009. They got this deal from the music labels in exchange for variable pricing. Songs used to all be 99 cents. Now labels can charge a range of 69 cents to $1.29 per track.
 
I actually laughed at this and kind of want it to happen. With all the stuff that happens with Apple and Samsung, we have Bruce Willis fighting for the little guy.
 
What we need is real consumer protection legislation for online and digital content purchases.

So far we have none, and companies can make up whatever crap they like. We need the government to legislate protection for consumers.
 
840quadra said:
If it is against the rules within the terms of service when he purchased these items, does Bruce really have a case?

Curious to hear what the end result and or response will be from Apple.
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It depends on whether or not a judge and jury rules that the TOS are legal in the first place. Wouldn't be the first time TOS were challenged in court, however, although this has typically been more an issue for apps than digital content like music.

That said, the current trend-dujour is to weave the TOS so they include both no-class-action lawsuit defensive language if not flat-out no-lawsuit language entirely. I think I read Netflix' TOS now includes a clause that states effectively that by accepting their Terms of Service, you give up your right to go to court on anything with them at all.

And if this all sounds very un-American.....its been upheld by the courts already (at least in the case of AT&T).
 
1) While I can understand that for music and media Apple is not the primary rights owner I don't understand that for apps. Those should be transferable between accounts

2) Also for music: I actually can buy lots of music in multiple stores. All its need is Apple allow in those cases to transfer music between account.

Apple and the Music industry really need to understand that with world is smaller these days and people moving. Many just not enough to care about.

But actually the current legal situation actually will lead me to restart buying physical media. Beside that advantage of Bruce Willis case of passing on music to my kid I also can easy move between countries and keep my music. Just rip it.

wish you luck Bruce; will not be successful though. :)
 
dra said:
WTF serious how about just leave yea kid some money to buy the songs or just ya iTunes password. or even better give her the song and leave her $29 to get iTunes match.
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Yes! Its like me, leaving my kids money to buy songs I've already bought!

Lucky736 said:
Someone needs to learn to read the stuff he clicks "I Agree" to and stop complaining that it doesn't do exactly what he wants and instead it does exactly what the agreement said it would do. If you don't like it, don't click "I Agree."

While I am a fan of him on the screen, he needs to continue finding something to do there instead of looking like a moron by putting himself in the media like this. Just goes to show you money doesn't necessarily bring common sense along with it...... not that it's the first time anyone has made that observation.
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YES! WHO NEEDS RIGHTS WHEN YOU CAN READ A LONG DOCUMENT EVERY TIME YOU LISTEN TO MUSIC THAT SOME LAWYER SMARTER AND BETTER THAN YOU WROTE TO SAY HOW YOU ACTUALLY HAVE NONE AND APPLE IS COMPLETELY GREAT AND ONLY YOU CAN GET SUED IN THIS BUSINESS TRANSACTION!

Thank you. I just bought an apple without a EULA. Should I sue the store because I can't eat it in 20 days?
 
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G4DP said:
The music is DRM free. Has been for a long time now. DRM has nothing to do with it either.

The point is about the fact that if a parent dies, then legally they cannot pass any of the purchased material on as it is only 'rented'.

It is a beautiful stitch up concocted by the labels and Apple.

The only way to solve it would be to burn everything to DVD and then re-install on to iTunes. Although in recent versions, Apple have removed the ability to do this straight through iTunes. YOu would have to do it manually through Disk Utility.
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You can just drag and drop to a flash drive and get the same results, simple.

I'll add that I wonder if a music rep is in with Bruce as to cut out Apple and start selling cd media again and make a better profit, just a thought…
 
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