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Users have reported that the green "camera on" indicator was displayed in iOS 14 when scrolling through their feed, but not taking a photo or a video. In a statement to The Verge, a spokesperson for Instagram said that the behavior was a bug and is being fixed.
The bug is that the green "camera on" indicator is displayed, not that the camera is on. The bug fix will turn off the camera indicator, but the camera will continue to be on. haha
 
Why does anyone care if the camera is on? I am not saying I would want or allow it if given a choice but what on earth is revealed by a camera... the color of my underwear? I use Netgear software and every time I launch "genie" it asks to access my photos... I say no every time, I wish it would learn my answer.
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The comments about nerds should know better than to use Facebook has me confused. Surely no one has ever accepted an invite, clicked on an ad, clicked on a link in a message, installed messenger on anything etc. I have felt Facebook was a mine field that could be crossed with a modicum of paranoia.
 
All these "bugs" are is FB and other companies trying to cover themselves when their tactics get exposed. Gullible believe it and the rest don't care because they're so addicted to the apps that they won't quit regardless of the poor business tactics of these companies.
Until there is real public outrage and action this will continue to happen. They have no reason as yet to stop.
 
There is a legitimate reason to always be accessing the camera: when you swipe over from your feed into the camera, Instagram wants the camera to be instantly ready to take a photo, which means initializing the camera before the user even enters the camera. (Otherwise there would be a few second delay. Try force quitting your Camera app and then re-opening it. It takes a second or two for the camera to initialize.)


I'm not trying to defend Instagram/Facebook, because they absolutely have some real ****** privacy-invading development tactics—but I'm not interested in vilifying them over this specific case without the full information like everyone else is.

ya’ll disagreeing and can’t come up with some to say huh? Typical of this ****ing site.
 
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Until there is real public outrage and action this will continue to happen. They have no reason as yet to stop.

The problem is things like this are flushed out in beta versions of iOS and caught by geeks (no insult intended) and the "bugs" are fixed before full release. I'm sure many of the clipboard offenders have already removed that "functionality" so when iOS 14 is released the masses will not know.

The sheep don't know or care.
 
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Apple needs a hardware tally light on their iPhones to notify users that their camera/mic are on. Full stop.
 
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/me has a new masterplan

- Legally change name to Joe Bug

- Work as developer for >20 sketchy IT companies one 1 week a pop

- Charge an insane hourly rate

- -> they are in the clean
 
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It seems that Instagram and several other app developers are in need of a large can of bug spray, as they appear to be unknowingly infested with lots of creepy crawlers. I suggest calling Orkin or buy in bulk from Amazon.
Men In Black should check Facebook HQ. The number of bugs is suspicious.
 
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What you call "aggressive" I call transparent and consumer-friendly. Words matter. Please use them accordingly.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the word “aggressive” here. It’s not a negative word. For example, you can aggressively defend yourself, aggressively fight covid-19, etc.

I’m glad Apple aggressively defends my privacy, and I hope that word accurately describes how they do it, because that’s what I want.
 
Their statement is full of lies and intentionally misleading.

"We found and are fixing a bug in iOS 14 Beta..."

Truth Translator v1.1: The "bug" was not in iOS 14 Beta and we did not touch anything in iOS as the statement makes it sound like. The "bug" was in the Instagram application. iOS 14 Beta correctly indicated that our application was accessing your camera.

...mistakenly indicates that some people are using the camera when they aren't.

Truth Translator v1.1: correctly indicates that our application was accessing the camera.

"We do not access your camera in those instances, and no content is recorded."

Truth Translator v1.1: We did access your camera, however, we did not record any of the content.
 
I'm sort of amazed at all of the comments in this thread. It's like not a single person in this thread has written software before -- let alone deal with iOS Obj-C or Swift. It's incredibly easy to not deregister connection to various APIs which is exactly what a system level indicator would expose via the camera API. I'm not saying FB/Instagram is in the right here, but damn. This stuff can legitimately happen.
 
If it wasn't for certain groups that I'm a part of that use FB as their main forum for communication and sharing, I would have deleted my account long ago.

I'd be surprised if the microphone isn't also compromised. I can recall a few ads popping up just from having a conversation with no search made, but then that could have been Google too.
 
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