Buildig MacPro A1186 with SSD?

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  1. yeukhon macrumors newbie

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    It will work, but only at SATA II/3.0Gbps speeds as that model Mac Pro does not support SATA III/6.0Gbps.
     
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  4. boodaddyz, Dec 21, 2014
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    Awesome find man! The 3,1 is a great machine. Not many upgrading options, but it's still a beast. Intel makes a great SSD. I use the 730 series 480gb, in my 3,1 and I get 260mb+ read/write on Sata ll.

    If you are going to use Sata ll and not a Sata lll PCIe card, you will need to get an adapter like this one to fit into the sled.

    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer Technology/ADPTADRV/

    Mine is on the way, and I will use that until I get my Sata lll PCIe adapter. Just a word of advice. I tried the Apricorn Solo X2 and could not get it to boot Windows. If you are not using Windows, it will boot into Mac OSX just fine and give you Sata lll Speeds.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...cm_re=apricorn_solo_x2-_-15-461-002-_-Product

    The Mac Pro 3,1 can be upgraded to 2x 3.2GHZ X5482 SLANZ processors (Max) that will cost around $120 for the pair on Ebay.

    I have 2x 3.2GHZ processors with 16gb ram and get benchscores of 12000+.

    Good luck with your 3,1 man!
     
  5. yeukhon thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thank you all of the repliers.

    But to @boodaddyz, I think the model is even older (A1186 (EMC 2113)). It would be MacPro 1,1 given the CPU is 2.66Ghz...

    I checked the spec http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-2.66-specs.html sounds like 7300GT has already occupied the PCIe 2.0 x2 slot?? So if I were to get the SSD adapter the one you linked from newegg, I would get the single slot version like http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Velocity-Extreme-Performance-VEL-SOLO-X2/dp/B0090IA3GY ?

     
  6. boodaddyz, Dec 21, 2014
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    Hi Yeukhon,

    Please accept my apologies. I have the Mac Pro 3,1 A1186 (EMC 2180) I should have confirmed that with you.

    apparently the 1,1 can be upgraded to a 2,1 with a firmware upgrade which will allow you to add better processors if you wanted to upgrade those.

    http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,1094.0.html

    The Mac Pro 1,1 has PCIe 1.1, and Sata ll. Sata ll has a higher bandwidth vs PCIe 1.1 so I would recommend using the on-board Sata ll connections.

    Apricorn makes a compatible Mac Pro 1,1 Sata lll card, but I think it maxes out at 400 MB/sec.

    http://www.apricorn.com/products/desktop-ssd-hdd-upgrade-kits/vel-solox1.html

    They say it's bootable, but I can not confirm that. I am also not sure that it will benifit you that much, as it's requires a PCIe 2.0 x1 slot to get the full 400 MB/sec

    I'm sure some other users here will chime in on the 1,1 as I am not to familiar with that system.

    Here are my read/write speeds on Sata ll with my Intel 730 series SSD

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    Hope this helps
     
  7. yeukhon thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Hey! Thank you for your thorough follow-up! This is fantastic. I am not very hardware savvy :( but your info has been very helpful. Yeah. That SSD is quite cheap and I can still use it in another system should I ever want to dump 1,1 (as it's really old by now).

    I completely agree some of the upgrades won't benefit me much. The hope is I can run a modern Mac OSX version. 10.8 would be ideal. I will do some more study and find the right pieces :)

    Thanks again! Have a happy holiday!
     
  8. theitsage macrumors 6502a

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    1,1 to 3,1 have the advantage when it comes to upgrading to SATA III due to their SAS cable for the 4 sled drives. I'm aware of 2 low cost SAS SATA III RAID Controller cards that support native OS X boot disk. Addonics ADMS6GPX2 and StarTech PEXSAT34SFF. Both of these use the Marvell 88SE9230 chipset.

    I have a couple of Syba cards that have this very same chipset and have been getting great speed from them.
     
  9. boodaddyz macrumors member

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    Hey Yeukhon,

    No problem glad to help. Happy Holidays to you as well!

    Yep. SSD on the Sata ll sled with the adapter is the way to go, and you should see a huge jump in performance. I would also get as much ram as you can if you plan to keep the system for a bit. This will also help tremendously.

    Here is a YouTube video on how to install Yosemeti on your Mac Pro 1,1.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwk8zU8OGzE

    I'm sure you seen this post from the thread page, but it also has some good information.

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1740775

    Have Fun!
     

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