stop being lazy and just rotate your playlists. I run marathons and even more in line with this topic i do 10-12 mile hikes with the dog and have yet thought "darn if only I had like 50gb more music to skip through". Rotate your music and move on bud.
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I hear you, but I think you are comparing Apples to Oranges. Apple is the business to make money. And one way to do that is do make complimentary products. Apple wants you to subscribe to Apple Music, thus it is supported in the Apple Watch and not the Nano. To me, I look at it as having many TB of data available on AM, that I can take a 2GB slice of at any time and listen to while I run .. personally I prefer that to just my own purchased music collection on one device with a lot of storage. But to each his own, and I understand where you are coming from.
His results have always been far more consistent than anything I can get. I train with a hr monitor pretty much every day and my optical monitors just aren't trustworthy for me. They are often in the general ballpark, but with my chest strap I trust it to within 1-2BPM every time and it makes very precise monitoring of my training load (and improvements for a given effort on a given course) very easy to monitor. I can't make anything of the optical data because it's far too scattered. I hate wearing a chest strap as well, but continue to do it because the data is so good.
I have not. I remain hopeful. Skeptical, but hopeful.
I think you are looking for a product that does not exist; and it may not exist for many more years to come. If you were using a Garmin optical HR sensor two years ago, that means you were using an activity tracker, not a fitness tracker. So, no surprise that did not meet expectations. Fitness devices, like the 235 and 735 work very well. Though, if you want perfect, you will not find it. The Apple watch was not designed for this, regardless.
You probably need to use a chest strap. Or, maybe you could get a Scosche Rhythm+ to work for you. Those are also very good. As far finding a single wrist-borne device to feed your music and a device to capture your workout, good luck. I think the product with the most music storage is the Timex Ironman One at 4GB.
I am the opposite. Maybe this is just the user-specific nature of wrist HR devices. I train with HR 100% (except swimming), and my wrist HR is excellent. It is within 1-2 beats of a chest strap. Intervals may lag, but I really do not see it. When I am doing intense intervals, by the time I can read my HR on my watch (usually at least 15 seconds into the rest period), my HR from an optical device is correct. Maybe it was off before then, but I never knew. I abandoned chest straps last year, and I am not looking back!
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I'll stop you right there and ask if you've heard of some magical battery technology that'll enable a tiny wristwatch to stream LTE data for more than thirty minutes.
Isn't there a pebble accessory that connects to cellular and can stream Spotify?
Just looked - pebble core: https://www.pebble.com/buy-pebble-core
iPod nano sized with cellular. Wonder if it needs the pebble watch to function though.
Just looked - pebble core: https://www.pebble.com/buy-pebble-core
iPod nano sized with cellular. Wonder if it needs the pebble watch to function though.
It is very easy to rotate the playlist on the Watch the night before a run. However, I use my morning runs for solving complex problems at work and I found the music was too distracting. It is much easier to detach from running when all you hear is your breathing and footsteps.
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This! I was just reading through this thread with a number of thoughts to share (Pebble Core being one of them)...
My wife is a marathoner (03:20:XX, only to give you a sense of how serious she is about the sport). She feels as you do about the Apple Watch. Her favorite iPod was the square nano but appreciates the Bluetooth of the latest gen. She's owned just about every top-end Garmin Forerunner, but she has yet to upgrade to the 735XT (maybe soon). She hates chest straps for HR but doesn't trust optical sensors...
So I ordered her the Pebble Core. And we'll soon get the Bose SoundSport Pulse. And she'll continue to run with a Garmin Forerunner. No better option that we've found.
With that said, I'm a huge fan of the Apple Watch. For me (NOT a runner), it's the perfect device for my lackluster commitment to fitness and love for tech.
My wife is a marathoner (03:20:XX, only to give you a sense of how serious she is about the sport). She feels as you do about the Apple Watch. Her favorite iPod was the square nano but appreciates the Bluetooth of the latest gen. She's owned just about every top-end Garmin Forerunner, but she has yet to upgrade to the 735XT (maybe soon). She hates chest straps for HR but doesn't trust optical sensors...
So I ordered her the Pebble Core. And we'll soon get the Bose SoundSport Pulse. And she'll continue to run with a Garmin Forerunner. No better option that we've found.
With that said, I'm a huge fan of the Apple Watch. For me (NOT a runner), it's the perfect device for my lackluster commitment to fitness and love for tech.
Lol...... If your going to complain, spell right when you do. Also, the Apple Watch has 8 gigabytes, a God so you don't need your phone, and you don't need more than 8 gb unless you game or are a business man.
I'm still on a AW0 - and I like running/exercising with just BT headphones and the watch - but If I work out for more than an hour, there's no way my watch makes it through the day without running out of juice.
Anyone else have this problem?
And does it take everyone exceedingly long amounts of time to sync music to the watch?
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I think all watches are limited to using 2GB of storage and one playlist for music on the watch.
Anyone else have this problem?
And does it take everyone exceedingly long amounts of time to sync music to the watch?
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I think all watches are limited to using 2GB of storage and one playlist for music on the watch.
You're complaining about a product that's clearly is not meant for you. What's the point of this thread other then to whine like a baby. When you look for a car do you complain about all the models manufactures make that don't fit your needs? Maybe you should make your own device since you clearly know how it should be made. I look forward to seeing it in the future.
YOU bought the wrong device. It is YOUR fault.
Return it and get a Fenix 3 HR. Even if you do not like it, not to worry as it is so big you could use it as a weapon.
Do your homework before your next purchase. Include English
To the best of my recollection Garmin introduced its' Elevate Wrist HR sensor just over 1 year ago. It was initially put on one of their fitness bands, then came the 235. Had my 235 since 11/19/15.
Sounds like you think the iPod nano from 8 years ago was also a fitness watch with GPS.
(It wasn't)